January 28, 2011

Ohio Mom In Jail For Sending Kids To The Wrong School

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A (black) woman pretends to live in another school district to be able to send her kids to that better school.  She gets caught, and is sentenced to jail.

The question on everyone's mind is if/how this is unfair, but the real money is in another question: why now?

We can all agree: if they wanted to handle this quietly, they could have.  Prosecutors could have easily turned this into a misdemeanor, let her plea bargain.

Instead:

The district hired a private investigator, who shot video showing Williams-Bolar driving her children into the district.  The school officials asked her to pay $30,000 in back tuition.  Williams-Bolar refused and was indicted and convicted of falsifying her residency records.

Re-read those three sentences, but put the word "Then" in front of the second and third.  Oh, so that's how it is.

The wrong way to understand this story is to think it is racial (which it probably is), or that she deliberately manipulated two systems-- public housing in Akron and schooling in Copley-Fairlawn (she did.)

The important points not in the news: she had been pursued by the school district for years about this, as had other parents gaming the system.  So the question is why they indicted her in November 2009.  Not why her; why then.

II. 

Here's the first hint that this "news story" has nothing to do with conveying information to you.  Look who gets a quote: prosecutors, superintendents, judges.  Look whose name is completely absent: her lawyer's.  In fact, that she even had a lawyer is not mentioned once.  I'm sure she had one, but what he had to say isn't important to the story... is it?

The missing part of the story is that in November 2009, the district was about to lose $467087 due to Ohio's inability to balance their budget.  On August 3, 2010, the Copley-Fairlawn district was the only one of 7 districts that managed to  pass a school tax hike of 23%. 

The board chose to pursue this woman-- apparently, the first one so prosecuted in the state's history-- for the specific reason that it can. It is a display of power, a show of force: we will protect your interests.  If you're asking why her, you're missing the point, it could have been her for  a million tiny reasons: race, she had been antagonistic with the board in the past, she was left handed, who knows?  This wasn't an assassination, it was a bomb blast.  She just happened to be in the building.

Why are you hearing about this story, in this way: "oh my god, those bastards won't even cut a break to a poor black woman?"   Because that story simultaneously delivers the government's message: "we don't squander taxpayer resources; we'll fight to protect every dime we can get."  The symbiosis between media and politics: the media gets their readers, and the government gets their message relayed to the public.  There's no news here, this is propaganda.

"But why would the school district want to portray themselves as racist meanies?"  Do you think they care what you think of them?  Dolla dolla bill, y'all.  They owe their allegiance to the voters of Copley-Fairlawn.

"But what's wrong with the Board protecting taxpayer money?"  That's just the point, they're not protecting it, they are pretending to protect it.   $30k for two years and two kids?  If you think the cost of public education in Akron is $7500 a year, you are completely and utterly insane and need to be disintegrated with acid.  The University of Akron, which is only slightly worse than any high school in Akron, charges $8k.  Granted, their teachers have PhDs but,... wait a second...

$30 million budget?  For what?  As long as you assume they're racists, as long as you think they are way too strict in their pursuit of fraudsters, then never will it occur to you to ask what exactly you're getting for your money.  That's what the media is for.  Oh, look, Idol is on tonight.

Anyone on the outside should be able to see this for what it is: a mafia style protection racket.  Pay us.  If you pay us, we will protect you from those who... don't pay us.


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Does it cost $7,500 to educ... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 12:30 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Does it cost $7,500 to educate a child for a year? No. Do I think the Copley-Fairlawn school district can blow $7,500 pretending to educate a child for a year? Yes.

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Epic Fail. I call major BS... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 12:40 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Epic Fail. I call major BS on this story.

Until my mom retired last year, she was a secretary at Brady Middle School, in Orange, Ohio - not too far from where this incident occurred. Orange is a very affluent community, and always passes its levies, but one little corner of it happens to have an apartment building where a bunch of blacks live, and what their relatives do is falsify the residency records that they live there, and early in the morning drop their progeny off at theier cousin's, or uncle's or grandmother's or whatever, and then the city of Orange gets the priviledge of paying for this extra burden.

The ironic part, somewhat OT, I grant, is that while the mom's may think that this maneuver benefits their kids because the ONLY THING HOLDING THEM BACK WAS A SHITTY SCHOOL, it rapidly becomes apparent that you can take the kid out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the kid. And these same children them proceed to suck up time and resources and generally makes the life of anyone unfortunate enough to deal with them a living hell.

This fraud is rampant, but hard to prove. And actually, on one or two occasion it was investigated, proved and the kid was removed, although I doubt restitution was paid.

Your usual hyper-sensitivity to hidden messages in people's actions have lead you astray. So you claim that they are only PRETENDING to care about the money [protecting the actual resident's interests]. WTF? Do you understand people? How about the chilling effect? You know, word gets around, maybe you do it a few more times and maybe some of the miscreants have second thoughts about attempting this fraud.

Or how about this - you can only hire one or two investigators at a time? They're not nearly as common as they are on TV, you know (look - the media has lead you down the primrose path again!), certainly not as common as laid-off auto workers.

But scratch all that. How about this for a suitable reason for pursuing justice: the fact that these kids, now that they are gone, will no longer be threatening other children, threatening teachers, stealing, molesting girls, acting up in class, vandalizing school property, phoning in bomb threats and DRAGGING DOWN THE SCHOOL'S TEST SCORES? See, now that's what a call a win-win - you're not just saving some money, and letting parents know they tax dollars aren't TOTALLY being flushed down the toilet, but you are improving the learning conditions at the exact same time. Now, that's what I call protecting the resident's interests!

And just because some ppeople might look at this as a good thing, it does not necessarily follow that they are completely blind to other fiscal malfeasance on the part of the respective school district.

Jeez, if you're not talking about narcissism, you tend to get really lost.

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What about her own district... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 12:40 PM | Posted by A stranger: | Reply

What about her own district that was misappropriating money for the education of kids who were not showing up for classes?

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You sound white."H... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 12:57 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Nadia: | Reply

You sound white.

"How about this for a suitable reason for pursuing justice: the fact that these kids, now that they are gone, will no longer be threatening other children, threatening teachers, stealing, molesting girls..."

and racist.

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Hey Nadia -Is it R... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 1:06 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Hey Nadia -

Is it RAAACIST if it actually happened? Because all those things DID happen. My favorite was the camera footage of one kid taking money out of a teacher's purse when she was out of the room for five minutes, only topped by the footage of the black boy zipping up his fly after he emerged from the girl's restroom, where he was "takin care of bizness" with a girl he had taken a fancy to.

But you can't have cameras everywhere, unfortunately. And as soon as you accuse of these kids, you get the lying, and of course - the charge of "YOU'RE RAAAAAACCCCCIST!!!"

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How much does it cost to ed... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 1:10 PM | Posted by Jon: | Reply

How much does it cost to educate a child for a year in Akron, OH? (no acid in the face, please)

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"You sound white."... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 1:37 PM | Posted, in reply to Nadia's comment, by Walenty Lisek: | Reply

"You sound white."

Racist!

Huh... using the racist label for any message I don't like is a lot easier than it looks. Thanks for the teaching moment liberal!

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Maybe we should just bus 'e... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 1:56 PM | Posted by BHE: | Reply

Maybe we should just bus 'em in. Are we still doing that?

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No one has to lie to go to ... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 1:58 PM | Posted by Gary: | Reply

No one has to lie to go to a decent grocery store to use their Food Vouchers. It's time to consider Education vouchers. Too bad the Left hates poor people so much. I know, I know. But your histrionic good intentions don't count. Sorry.

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Gary, everyone hates... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 2:01 PM | Posted by Jon: | Reply

Gary, everyone hates poor people.

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Yes, it does cost $7,500 pe... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 2:12 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Yes, it does cost $7,500 per year.

The Univ. of Akron (BTW, a lot of elitist spoutings as of late) is a public school that draws from the same pool as OSU and others; It has endowments, grants, income from sports, contributions, etc. 8K is what the University asks of its students based on the university's management needs, not what it costs to house them.

9 months of rent, even in Akron and a studio apartment, would be about 3k/yr.

When you say "cost", You really mean its relative value. That is not what they mean and not what "cost" means.

Actually, it costs nothing to go. But that's not the point. The point is that it costs the city and state an amount to go and that's based on the enrollment.

A school of 500:

60% take the bus (both ways), 60 teachers and staff with an average income of 40-50K, heating the building, abiding by state laws that require a certain number of computers per 20 students,
SEI (Spanish-English integration), SAR (Social Academic Remediation), books, lunch/breakfast, gym equipment and testing, 4-5 required field trips, materials, snow removal, playground renovation and on... You will come up with a finite figure that must be paid to someone-food distributors, contractors who manage upkeep, etc.

Anyone who works with a school budget could tell you that it most certainly costs that much. Tuition and operational costs are not (always) related.

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So two isolated incidents b... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 2:29 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by BaseballGuyCAA: | Reply

So two isolated incidents by troubled individuals automatically paint their entire race as a bunch of base mongoloids, out to steal your munnies and rape your wimmins?

Dude, stop denying it. You're a racist. There are examples of shitbags coming from every sub-section of society. You simply choose to single one sub-section out, and use those isolated shitbags as justification for your prejudices.

You realize what you're saying? Blacks are thieves and rapists? 1915 called, they want their line of thinking back.

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From <a href="http://www.ei... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 2:52 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

From http://www.eiaonline.com/districts/Ohio.pdf
~$30M / 3400 students give or take (line 133). Per puil spending in Akron is actually closer to $12K (line 5). More money ≠ better students.

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It always comes down to mon... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 3:04 PM | Posted by Nando: | Reply

It always comes down to money, power, and control. At least, she didn't make her children take out $40K to attend a fourth tier toilet law school.

http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/

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This post was pathetic. I d... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 4:51 PM | Posted by Dr John: | Reply

This post was pathetic. I don't know what happened. Maybe you just ran out of things to write about. Anymore it's hard to even understand your point as you seem to be running on nothing but the fumes of your sarcastic outrage. I have to agree with the poster who called you on your snobish references to the Univ. of Akron. I would think anyone past 40 yrs of age and with a college education would at some point begin to come to grips with the fact that regardless of where people get their fucking diploma, there is only a partial correlation to the amount of useful information that they carry around in their brain. I have known some geniuses who went to community college and some morons with Ivy League diplomas. You are a gifted and at times insightful writer. Everything you write does not need to appear as if it's generated by your own personal indignation driven by the host of idiots who have had the unfortunate luck of being born into a lower or middle class world or are just narcissists.

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So I checked out <a href="h... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 4:53 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

So I checked out http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/ and... Alone is Will Meyerhofer?

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You're right. We should ke... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 5:45 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Nadia: | Reply

You're right. We should keep black people poor and uneducated, because these children are clearly beyond help.

You're exactly the kind of person this sort of behavior targets. Since the school board cracked down on a few of these hooligans, you won't mind the 23% tax hike your district will propose in a few months.

"At least my kids don't have to go to school with coloreds!"

Except most people keep their mouths shut about their racism and vote "yes" when the day comes. Just as you would.

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The K-12 public school syst... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 7:27 PM | Posted by Jack Coupal: | Reply

The K-12 public school system exists for the benefit of the adults in the system: school teachers, staff, administrators, and parents. The children are an afterthought.

As someone above mentioned, give tuition vouchers to parents to choose which school their kid goes to. The System then loses its territorial stranglehold on each kid's body. Food stamps = public school vouchers.

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TLP = TPT ?... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 7:41 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

TLP = TPT ?

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Seems very unlikely.... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 7:57 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by R. Kevin Hill: | Reply

Seems very unlikely.

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In my state they eliminated... (Below threshold)

January 28, 2011 8:00 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

In my state they eliminated this problem by letting students enroll in any school they wish in the state, but transportation will only be provided to in-district schools. It works well--not many parents really want to drive their kid 20 miles to school each day, so few people take advantage of the offer, but it's there for those who want it. In our state the "inner city" schools are some of the best schools with the best funding in the state, so some suburban parents drive their kids in to the city schools each day, and you don't see much of the reverse.

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My parents drove me and my ... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 12:44 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

My parents drove me and my brother to a better district each day back in the 80s. It was allowed. We just had to fill out a form asking to stay in our old district after we'd moved. This situation helped me since I was a nerdy book worm who hated change, but it hurt my brother. Once I graduated my brother asked to stay in our local district for social reasons. He went from being an average student with average popularity, to being the smartest kid in school and prom king. It did wonders for him to be in a lesser school. A "better" school isn't necessarily better for YOUR kid.

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Continuing my story from th... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 1:03 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Continuing my story from the post above. We were poor kids living in low income housing and being bussed into the richer district along with mostly minorities. That "good" school had at least 30% minorities. When we moved, we moved into a poor, mostly white area and the local "lesser" school was 90% poor white kids.

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"make"?... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 9:32 AM | Posted, in reply to Nando's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

"make"?

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TLP taught me to ask myself... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 9:41 AM | Posted by Anon2312: | Reply

TLP taught me to ask myself this question:

What do I want to be true here?

This seems like a story that demands that question more obviously than most.

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"the fact that these kids, ... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 12:31 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by anon1: | Reply

"the fact that these kids, now that they are gone, will no longer be threatening other children, threatening teachers, stealing, molesting girls, acting up in class, vandalizing school property, phoning in bomb threats and DRAGGING DOWN THE SCHOOL'S TEST SCORES?"

This sounds like a vast racist generalization which completely obliterates any point you have attempted to make.

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In a society where public s... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 2:34 PM | Posted by Kill Dr. Pill: | Reply

In a society where public schools instead of teaching real math, science, language and geography, it targets children behaviors and attitudes while they spy on their parents. Who would expect other outcomes than this?

Decades of behavioral modification by accredited social psychologists only can produce an under caste of impotent blind idiots.

Pavlov is flipping in his grave.

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Well there's racism inheren... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 2:41 PM | Posted by laurent: | Reply

Well there's racism inherent in the story, of course. And it's very difficult to be completely non-racist. Racism is quite natural and, while terribly unfair, is omnipresent in all societies.
You want your school district to be free of poor kids? Raise the school tax. What? A few poor ones are getting through without ponying up? Prosecute one in a high-profile way and it'll scare the rest of 'em.
After a few iterations you'll have a district that is white, affluent, and produces hordes of college-bound snots. Which adds to property values!
It's racism, and it's using affluence as a weapon.

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Institutional schools only ... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 5:45 PM | Posted by Steve: | Reply

Institutional schools only exist to indoctrinate. Ultimately, the institution's interests are more important than then the students. The state needs a place to cultivate the soldiers of the future, and public schools do a good job of teaching them to do what they are told.

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Move to Massachusetts, wher... (Below threshold)

January 29, 2011 7:30 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Move to Massachusetts, where schools are the best in the nation (but hardly the most expensive) for the simple reason that students can take their business anywhere. You can attend any school you can get to -- no applications, no vouchers, no lotteries (charter schools are slightly different).

Every single school district literally fights to get more students because each kid comes with state money. They compete and trash talk other school districts. They even try to talk parents out of sending their kids elsewhere. It's the ultimate accountability: make the customers happy or go out of business.

And that's why we have the best schools in the country.

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Enh, I'm not going to dig u... (Below threshold)

January 30, 2011 5:05 AM | Posted by Racist: | Reply

Enh, I'm not going to dig up all my racist links but, there are differences between the races, in line with the stereotypes. Here are the PISA scores, broken out by race within the USA, + compared to other countries:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/101219_pisa.htm

And, no cite, but black crime is ~10x (yes!) higher than white, and asian a few times _lower_. Again according to stereotype. Grow up, grow out of yet another pleasant Santa Claus-type belief (people on different continents, with easier and harder environments, and different mixtures of different archaic humans evolved the same, mentally; it must be, that's only fair! If it weren't so things might get ugly!) -- and adapt; race is real.

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@Racist:Neglected ... (Below threshold)

January 30, 2011 7:33 AM | Posted by Whatever: | Reply

@Racist:

Neglected kids do bad in school no matter what their color. If you'd had seen the inside of a classroom as an adult, you'd know that.

And FYI, people who are truly superior generally feel no need to prove it.

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But for the discussion of t... (Below threshold)

January 30, 2011 10:53 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

But for the discussion of this post, Massachusetts is hardly the template for academic equality...

Boston is an utter mess! It performs far below the state average. There are three exam high schools that provide competitive education and such pilot/charters that try, and the others have problems

People have been fleeing even the more livable areas of the city when their kids don't get into one of them for 35 yrs.!

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The sad thing here is that ... (Below threshold)

January 30, 2011 11:47 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

The sad thing here is that fraud is depicted as a mother's attempt to do right by her children, to improve their lives. If the children are sufficiently bright to attend schools with regular curriculum, they are sufficiently bright to understand when they are attending a particular school by fraudulent means. This mother is teaching "if you can do it, you are a fool not to" rather than any lesson about ethics. That single message sets her children up for life choices that are beyond the reach or impact of any school they attend. And we wonder why narcissistic behavior is so commonplace?

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I went to a private high sc... (Below threshold)

January 30, 2011 12:51 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

I went to a private high school that I hated, and that cost $10,000 a year - to my disbelieving outrage I recently learned that my parents voluntarily donated extra money every year. I spent my time at this school putting salami in the cd drives of expensive computers, defacing library books, and trying to instigate petty revolt against the administration. (So my parents did get something for their money - I didn't get kicked out of school!)

Basically I'm trying to say it is possible to spend a lot of money on a shitty education.

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Baseball guy.....check out ... (Below threshold)

January 30, 2011 11:29 PM | Posted, in reply to BaseballGuyCAA's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

Baseball guy.....check out the FBI crime stats website. Look at interracial violent crimes etc. Now, no tribe of man is spared the effects of depravity .But dang if some folks just don't take to it .

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I guess I struggle with the... (Below threshold)

January 31, 2011 10:44 AM | Posted by Felan: | Reply

I guess I struggle with the idea of someone being jailed for this. It doesn't seem to suit my idea of justice.

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It doesn't matter if blacks... (Below threshold)

January 31, 2011 11:20 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

It doesn't matter if blacks are more likely to be criminals in the US - it doesn't even matter if most blacks are criminals, it's still unfair to judge people by anything but their own individual character and their own actions.

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"It doesn't matter if black... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 6:19 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by James Watson: | Reply

"It doesn't matter if blacks are more likely to be criminals in the US - it doesn't even matter if most blacks are criminals, it's still unfair to judge people by anything but their own individual character and their own actions."

This may be the most moronic statement I've come across in some time. Following this logic if I were to have a choice between buying a Pit Bull vs. a Labadore Retreiver I should give no thought to the safety and well being of my children. Of all people TLP should know the human mind is designed to discriminate...and for good reason. Experience teaches us how and when to avoid danger. Even Jesse Jackson knows this.... “There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

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That still has nothing to d... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 7:16 AM | Posted by Whatever: | Reply

That still has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with economic status.

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If that were true, America,... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 10:32 AM | Posted, in reply to Whatever's comment, by James Watson: | Reply

If that were true, America, during The Great Depression, would have seen the greatest spike in crime the country had ever witnessed. Moreover, if there was a powerful correlation between, crime or academic success then poor Asians would be failing miserably. This, of course, is not the case.

Still a skeptic? What about well-to-do Blacks? Your "economic theory" fails here as well...

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/eastbay/rich-black-flunking/Content?oid=1070459

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Just because the brain/mind... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 1:06 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Just because the brain/mind discriminates and categorizes as a means to make sense of the world and prioritize that doesn't mean it's "designed" to do so on a racial basis. The "design" part comes in with nurture not nature, people learn what to be afraid of and what not to fear (or how to categorize things or situations). To "discriminate" doesn't actually necessarily mean to be racially prejudiced (and rather indiscriminate projecting of certain attributes onto all people of the same skin tone or culture), to discriminate simply means to be able to tell things apart - whether we categorize them as "good" or "bad" is based upon experience/belief.

And, if you think those studies that show that most people who claim not to be racist actually are on a subconscious level, that says more about the lies many Americans tell themselves about their own prejudices (these would be the kind of people who say racist things while claiming not to be racist, there's a lot of 'em out there). America has a particularly fucked up relationship with race that the culture as a whole is in denial about (mainly because the American dream is largely based upon the lie that it's a classless society, as if simply getting rid of official apartheid got rid of cultural, institutional and social racism). It would also indicate you haven't (and don't want to think) critically or in-depth about those studies because they affirm your beliefs...a topic Alone often writes about.

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You find yourself *buying* ... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 2:17 PM | Posted, in reply to James Watson's comment, by Anon: | Reply

You find yourself *buying* human beings by "breed" often, do you? Interesting analogy.

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Besides, we all know that i... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 2:22 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Besides, we all know that it's the Irish who are really the stupid, violent, criminal race...just ask the British and check American history! *sarcasm off*

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The poor people of Now are ... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Posted by Whatever: | Reply

The poor people of Now are not the same as the ones who lived in the Great Depression.

First of all, their attitudes were completely different, they did not glorify drugs, gambling and teen pregnancy, for example. Which may have had something to do with the lack of welfare. (Nothing can disintegrate a racial group faster than being on welfare for a few generations. Ask the Native Americans.)

So yes, I still think it's an economic status issue rather than a race issue.

"it was their own attitudes, and those of their parents."

This still doesn't prove that blacks are genetically more "defective" than whites, which I think you're trying to insinuate here.

An attitude is not genetic, it's environmental therefore amendable - or their parents would have never made it in to Shaker Heights in the first place. As somebody mentioned in a comment below, ALL races have parents like this.

Much of the former East Germany, for example, is not very different than some of the black neighborhoods of the US. Not only has the majority there turned into total losers ever since West Germany took away their jobs and gave them welfare - they've become racist on top of it.

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I appreciate TLPs thoughts ... (Below threshold)

February 1, 2011 3:22 PM | Posted by Darwin's Codpiece: | Reply

I appreciate TLPs thoughts on this story. But, I guess I really get upset at some of the comments that talk about race.

If the mother were Asian, do you think the school board would have gone after her? Would the media take the schoolboard's side? Would we have commenters talking about the "black kids" who are causing trouble when their families do the same thing? (BTW, it isn't that they don't do as well as the more affluent kids, but that they may do better than they would have at the shitty school) (further BTW, if shitty schools don't hold kids back, why do we care about the quality of the schools our kids attend?)

Bottom line, this story seems to help the school district in two ways: as a warning about fraudulent use of tax dollars, and great PR: "Our district is so good, people risk jail to send their kids to us."

A no-lose situation here (except for the mom and her kids)

Again, if the mother were Asian, she would be a "tiger-mother" and on all the talk shows. We would all be talking about what a courageous person she was, who valued her childrens' education so. She's black, so she's just a good-for-nothing cheat whose kids aren't smart enough to benefit from the school in the first place.

And America's not more "fucked-up" about race, we're just one of the few melting-pot societies around. Now that immigrants are coming to other countries, racism is on the rise there as well. If anything, I think America is ahead of the game because we have been dealing with it for so long. Still not there, but making progress.

ANother BTW: does anyone remember the "Yellow Peril"? At the turn of the last century, when laws were made to restrict the rights of Asians? When people were scared of a takeover by the Chinese? Now, Asians are the darling (maybe because so many that have come over come from more educated backgrounds) And props to my own people, the Irish; see some of the old caricatures of the Irish in the late 1800's.

Just so you know, I'm as white as ANYBODY here. My portrait is a picture of a saltine cracker. AND, I'm from the South. And served in the US Navy for 12 years. So I'm not some crazy librul.

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February 1, 2011 3:29 PM | Posted by Darwin's Codpiece: | Reply

Another thought: it's good to learn that "all" black kids steal, lie, molest children. I teach black medical students, so I better watch my wallet. I'll also have to figure out how they cheat on all the tests. They're so clever, those schemers!

Hint: look up about confirmation bias. It explains a lot.

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February 1, 2011 5:19 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by James Watson: | Reply

"Just because the brain/mind discriminates and categorizes as a means to make sense of the world and prioritize that doesn't mean it's "designed" to do so on a racial basis. The "design" part comes in with nurture not nature, people learn what to be afraid of and what not to fear (or how to categorize things or situations)."

Several studies suggest otherwise, like this one, I believe, likely, it's a combination of Nature and Nurture that informs our decisions on race/ethnicity.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-11-genes-key-coalitions-psychologists.html

"America has a particularly fucked up relationship with race that the culture as a whole is in denial about (mainly because the American dream is largely based upon the lie that it's a classless society, as if simply getting rid of official apartheid got rid of cultural, institutional and social racism)."

America has a particularly fucked up relationship with race based on the lie called "egalitarianism". The idea that every group/ethnicity/race of people in the world are, on average, equally intelligent. Moreover, the fact that, as Eric Holder suggests, White people are to craven to talk honestly about race for fear for being called a racist. As a result you'll get intellectually dishonest theories such as "conformation bias" in an attempt to explain away what your lying see every day....not to mention 90 years of rock solid research on IQ.

The problem we have is once an admission is made to even the possibility of average difference in IQ between different populations it will discredit every social program that the US has built up since Johnson's "Great Society" of the 1960's. That's billions, if not, trillions of dollars in social/political/economic capital. Not likely to happen in our lifetime...


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February 1, 2011 6:39 PM | Posted by Darwin's Codpiece: | Reply

Definition of Egalitarian: Affirming, promoting, or characterized by belief in equal political, economic, social, and civil rights for all people. Doesn't really have anything to do with intelligence per se.

I would say that relying on "your lying eyes" is an example of confirmation bias and biased sampling, at the least. Confirmation Bias is not intellectual dishonesty; in fact it is a feature of our cognitive functioning that is very important to account for when approaching hypotheses scientifically.

The idea that white people are too "craven" to talk about race realistically (meaning of course that blacks are inherently inferior) is interesting, considering that historically most white views on blacks have been quite negative. Maybe reliance on IQ testing to explain differences in group achievements is not as warranted as we commonly think. Certainly those who perform well on IQ tests are more likely to be successful, but in many fields relative success does not require high IQs. I doubt every Wall Street tycoon has a high IQ, nor every successful politician (not directed at GW Bush).

The programs of the Great Society, whether effective or not, were not a sop to black Americans, but rather an attempt (ill-informed or not) to reduce poverty in all people regardless of race.

Considering that many black Americans come from broken homes, dysfunctional families, combat-zone neighborhoods, would at least suggest that the environment may play some role in reduced cognitive development. In fact, one would expect, and indeed, see this to be the case for any race. Furthermore, there is evidence to back up the idea that up to a certain threshold, environmental factors play more of a role in childhood development than genetic differences. Thus, children in very underprivileged backgrounds tend to have poorer cognitive development, but this is independent of genetic factors (studies done with twins). Once a supportive environment is in place, genetic differences begin to dominate. Therefore, Great Society like programs would probably be even more beneficial if this is true, and so should be continued and expanded.

Again, don't forget that about 100 years ago, the Chinese were felt to be inferior, requiring special legislation to prevent their application for citizenship in America. Also, the Irish were long felt, certainly in Britain and in parts of America, to be lazy, shiftless, drunken barbarians. Now when we think Asians, we think intelligence and hard-work. And the Irish have done pretty well too. Still drunkards, of course.

It seems that when people look at race and IQ disparities, rather than trying to find any changeable causes and addressing them, so that underachieving groups maximize their cognitive development, the argument seems to be that we should be confirmed in our opinion that other groups cannot function as we can, and so they should not be given any opportunity to achieve anything past their "station in life."

Hopefully the Chinese, being the most intelligent group and thus destined to outperform all other groups, will be more magnanimous when they take over our country.

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February 2, 2011 6:34 AM | Posted by Proud Honky: | Reply


As someone who's been White all his life, and who has a high IQ (137, just short of Mensa) despite being raised in poverty and dropping out of school at 13 to devote my life to sex, drugs, rock & roll, I can attest that all this talk about intelligence and education is silly. The reason we Whites are on top in this country is that in the colonial days we started out being more vicious, corrupt and deceitful than every other "racial" group around and we haven't let up yet. Think "smallpox blankets."

Whites have been the numerical majority for a couple hundred years now but that's changing, and its scaring us to death. That's why we have such a big prison population comprised of mostly "minorities": when young "non-white" men are behind bars raping and prostituting each other they're not out "in the world" making more "minority" babies. A side benefit is that we can increase our access to "minority" women -- and pay for their abortions when the rubber breaks. (A cynic once told me that cotton was only half the story.)

The key is to outlast and outbreed us. The white race is pretty much tapped out: the past 30 years have been a desperate attempt to keep control, and it's clearly not working. Picture White rule in America as an old car in a cartoon falling apart as it slows to a stop. The reason is we've been too busy keeping you down to build ourselves up.

One hint: movies and popular music that glorify Thug Life are meant to make it easy for us to lock your young men up. Pull up your pants, tie your shoes, get good at reading & math and don't go to prison.

The Nation of Islam was right all along.

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February 2, 2011 3:24 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Maybe TLP is right and the motivation for her prosecution was political (and racial). But the woman could have agreed to repay tuition and settle this matter without being subject to any criminal charges.

Why did she refuse to settle in the first place? There was little question that she submitted fraudulent documents. Perhaps, this is also where race came into play. She may have assumed the school had a racist motivation for pursuing the matter, and this fact, in her mind, mitigated her own wrongdoing.

This highlights a problem of race today, which is selective enforcement of laws against black people who have in fact violated those laws.

Yes, its unfair, but leaves me only mildly sympathetic. Let me hear the story of someone who truly is innocent of the charges. That's news worth caring about.

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February 4, 2011 8:09 AM | Posted by vin: | Reply

the reason why these children behave as such is because of the way they are treated. if they are treated more humane and more opportunities were opened for them, they would not be behaving as such. their crimes are a result of poverty, and poverty is a result of powerhouses that are very particular about their employees' race; and there are a lot of them. then the children resort to lying cheating and stealing which degrades them more to the eyes of racists and elitists, resulting to poverty. its a vicious cycle that needs to end; if you think they think too far back than you, maybe they are, but it doesnt mean that they cant think and act like you.

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February 4, 2011 2:30 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Why wouldn't someone lie and cheat if society tells them that lies and cheating are what get you ahead and that being hardworking and honest are an idiot's game? The middle class likes to believe that people who are wealthy got there through hard work and by being "good"/honest people, not because the system is stacked to benefit the wealthy. This is because they want to believe they too will be wealthy if they work hard and are "good" people. The poor are generally much more aware that this is bullshit.

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February 16, 2011 7:11 PM | Posted by mvk: | Reply

Um, you think that $7500 per year is ridiculously *high*? I call BS.

Teaching a student for a year requires, at minimum, one teacher per 25 kids. Is $50k/year a reasonable pay for a teacher? That's $2k per student right there.

Of course, no teacher can work constantly all day (they need time for lunch, meetings with other teachers and administrators, etc.) Plus, some students have special needs-- a 6th grader reading at a 2nd grade level really needs a special class to help him or her catch up. So, you really need more than one teacher per 25 kids.

Maybe we're already at $4k.

And don't forget the school nurse, cooks, janitors, a few guidance councilors, a principal, various low-paid staff watching the school entrance, etc. Also textbooks, and computers, and buses, and bus drivers, upkeep on a massive building to house all those kids, etc.

(Aside: University of Akron costs so little because it's funded by the state. If you were to charge a student "full price", it might wind up costing $20k or more.)

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March 9, 2011 2:36 AM | Posted, in reply to Racist's comment, by Spider: | Reply

Racist, that's ENVIRONMENT, not race. That would be, in fact, the entire reason this woman wanted her kids to go to a better school.

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October 3, 2011 7:47 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Sean O'Brien: | Reply

I'm a White male, age 19. From elementary school through high school I lived in a district where the nearest schools ranked C and D in the US ranking system. Several of my White, Hispanic, and Black friends went to these schools; I didn't. I used my grandmother's address to go to a primarily White school district (.5 in 10 children were Black). Here I proceeded to get a 4.75 GPA with Honors and Advanced Placement credits as well as Dual Enrollment in a nearby Community College for free. I now go to a Technical School. I have never molested anyone, killed anyone, failed a class, wasted a teachers time, or brought an injustice to anyone. My schools ranked A each year but my Junior year in High School (ranked B instead).

My neighborhood was indeed Ghetto, and yes, I spoke with an accent that included "ain't," "y'all," and several racist terms towards all parties. Several of my neighborhood friends never went to college, others dropped out of school or became involved in gangs and drugs. But me, with my 4.75 average, out of district schooling, went to a college and will be leading a hopefully successful life. I passed my state's standardized tests with near perfect scores while half asleep. The location you're raised has little to do with your ability to learn, the quality of teacher and attention you receive however does. I guarantee that when I was receiving purposeful trigonometry work, my neighbors were laboring over basic Algebra, from a teacher who never let them ask questions.

Do realize that the white neighborhoods with the children passing standardized tests are also receiving more money than those that fail to meet standards, thus dropping the teachers' urge to teach, and failing to provide new textbooks and learning tools to students. Those that do well do better, those that do poor do worse in the US education system. If my parents hadn't driven me thirty minutes out of district to go to a better school I'd probably be a high school drop out, joining the military or getting a grunt job in McDonalds, instead I'm getting a dual degree in Artificial Life and Robotics. Think about that before you tell the world "You can take the kid out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the kid." Think about that before you sentence a caring mother to prison for lying about her address for her child's sake. Think about that before you assume that these children are wasting the time and money put in to higher income district schools.

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December 20, 2012 7:18 PM | Posted by PJ: | Reply

Humorously (maybe), out of all the comments including or referring to racism, and it was overt, this is the one I thought was the worst, perhaps because it was a lot more subtle:

"But the woman could have agreed to repay tuition and settle this matter without being subject to any criminal charges.... Why didn't she just pay up? She wouldn't have been prosecuted otherwise."

How wealthy and/or out of touch with reality is it to think that $30,000 is a reasonable amount to levy on an individual in this case? This woman living in a poor neighborhood with two kids should have just agreed to pay it? With what?

She's probably lucky to live paycheck to paycheck -- as a single mom for 16 years with no child support, I know the story, and I'm lower middle class not poor -- a fine at even a small fraction of that would be massive. It's a devastating amount for someone poor (and likely even if she could afford small payments we're looking at interest and debt slave maybe almost forever on that).

And from her perspective, which one assumes might influence her decisions in response, she's surrounded by all kinds of other people doing the same thing, in every decent sized city in the country including hers, before her, during her, after her, yet she is the one they hunted down. I'm guessing a degree of 'surreal' and thinking the nightmare would surely resolve since it was so nonexistent for everyone else might have been in place...

I see they were using her to 'make an example' and also that by choosing their example as a black woman in a poor neighborhood with multiple children, they prevented any future such incidents as being any more newsworthy or providing any possible follow-up drama: this got pretty much every category of worst-case out of the way right up front.

Wealthier people want to live in places that put heavier taxes out for education, and their children in exchange can go to better schools, and be fed to the college instead of the cannon as fodder. Every status-quo organization even peripherally involved in education and government is supporting this, by the refusal of market decision (school vouchers, to include schools which also happen to teach religion).

PJ

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