February 18, 2011

Not A Good Month For Blonde Reporters

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and not a good generation for everyone else


Honest up, wildpeople, when you heard a TV reporter named Lara Logan got sexually assaulted by a gang of hooligans, how much did you want to see what she looked like?  Lara  sounds hot.  And how certain were you that to find out, all you'd have to do was click the link? 

Is rape a crime of sex or a crime of violence?   Better to ask: how good is your psychic filter that you can find sexiness in pretty much anything?  You didn't picture her bloodied and crying, you imagined her reluctant.  How easy was it for your mind to turn "gang rape" into gang bang"?  You don't have to answer; I live in the same country you do.

The story seems to be that she was raped by a bunch of hooligans, but that story is long gone in favor of the louder one, the one that's everywhere: did her looks have anything to do with it?

Years of cognitive retraining have finally taught us not to ask that question, though only because we're now in general agreement that looks have everything to do with it.  Oh, I know, not all rapes-- just the ones you're going to hear about in the media.

Media producers, my pet name for the Chthulu, have pretended to be appalled by the public's wonder if Logan's blonde hotness had anything to do with her rape, but it's hardly the public's fault-- they made her hotness the story.   I knew she'd be Victoria Secret hot the moment I heard the story, partly because I assume they only hire hot reporters but also because I know they wouldn't bother screaming the story at me if she wasn't.  Do they ordinarily reveal the faces of rape victims in other cases?  Well, here's one so you don't have to google it.

But they're not telling you she's blonde to suggest that's why she was raped, they're telling it to you to read the story.  And when they tell you that you are a misogynist jerk for thinking that her swimsuit model body had anything to do with her attack, I hope you can see that they are telling you that so that they have an excuse to mention that she had a swimsuit model's body.  Like Arthur challenges Saito, "don't think about elephants.   What are you thinking about?"  Son of a gun, inception works.

Are there any among you who read the story but didn't wonder if she was good looking?  Ladies, no one's looking, you can be honest.

So don't let the media tell you her looks aren't an issue, I have no idea whether they weren't an issue in the rape but they are most certainly an issue in the story, which is all they care about, and which becomes your entire data set of the world.

II. 

You know what I don't know about Lara Logan?  Who raped her.  Pro-Mubarak or anti-?  Too bad, that's what I want to know, so I know whether to write the country off for the next decade  or the next five decades.

Oh, refreshingly, the media has refrained from the reflex racial apologistics that follow American crimes, "not all Egyptians are rapists" and "this isn't indicative of all Egyptians," but the media has to hold off because we don't know who did it, the media isn't sure which way they want to go.  Once we know for sure, you won't have to fire one synapse to figure out if this is indicative of all Egyptians or not, they'll Matrix it out for you in news reports, TV shows, and commercials.  Stay tuned, the next generation of foreign policy axioms brought to you by the producers at CBS.


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III.

It isn't a good month for blonde reporters on location. Some other swimsuit model tried to get the words out right, tripped over the first, and then like dominos all the words went down, down, down, and there's only one valid interpretation: her brain misfired.

The story is that she maybe had a stroke; but the story of the story is that the media want to get out from the shadows and become the story, and any chance they can get it-- and at anyone's expense-- they will take it.    No one wants their reporters to have strokes or get gang raped, but no one should let a good crisis go to waste, either, it's an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid, thank you very much Mayor Emanuel.  Maybe we had a good reason to avoid certain things?   I will point out that the entire pubic discourse on these reporters does not ever mention the content of the original story-- what was Logan about to report?  What words was Branson trying to get out?  Oh, that's not important.  Then why did we have her out there in the first place?


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It's hard to summarize the extent of the damage that the news media inflict on each individual's psyche because it all seems so appropriate: shouldn't we want more information, not less?  That way we can pick and choose what's important to us?  It makes some sense, yet it still takes me weeks to pick a computer that is identical to all my other choices though  none of which are really appropriate to my needs.  Information bias is a steel death trap, once you're in you do not want to come out.  But there are only 24 hours in a day, and with sleep and porn and driving and drinking, what you know about the world comes in brief soundbites, and the minutes you spend knowing about Branson and Logan are minutes you don't know something else, and worse, you think you can extrapolate from these pop culture images to a sophisticated understanding of finance and politics.  You can't, there's no time left for thinking. I know you think you're above pop culture and stick to news, but all of this is pop culture and you're eyeballs deep in it and there is no where else to turn.   I guess I'm guilty too, having just spent hours writing about this, but I justify it by saying someone has to make this explicit, someone has to let you know that these maneuvers and seductions aren't incidental but wholly the purpose, sure they know it's dumbing and wrong but that's the game, everyone's gots to get paid, you may not be interested in pop culture but pop culture is interested in you.


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February 18, 2011 11:17 AM | Posted by Laura: | Reply

Oh, snap.

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February 18, 2011 11:24 AM | Posted by Erlend: | Reply

Yes. And yet, no-one will hear it, for what are we if all this is a charade?

The very worst thing possible: just like everyone else.

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February 18, 2011 11:40 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Those first two paragraphs may be the most incisive introduction you've ever written for this website. Very good piece.

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February 18, 2011 11:41 AM | Posted by sdenheyer: | Reply

I guess it's relevant: I'm male.

In all honesty, I had recently watched the film "Irreversible," which contains the most unflinching, cruel, and (I think) realistic rape scene I've ever seen committed to film, and it traumatized me (to the extent that watching something fake can traumatize you). Aside - yes, the actress was hot - that didn't make it sexy. In the least.

So when I heard about Lara Logan, my brain referenced that, and it never even occurred to me to wonder what she looked like. The only thing I was feeling was how foul it is. And then, in passing: somebody made the decision to send her in there after Anderson Cooper was attacked - and she agreed.

I don't know if this is relevant to your point, but you asked, so I'm answering...

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She wasn't raped. Get your ... (Below threshold)

February 18, 2011 12:34 PM | Posted by JJ: | Reply

She wasn't raped. Get your facts straight. She was "sexually assaulted". That seems to mean "a woman attacked physically by men".

Also, her attackers have been definitively identified as pro-Mubarak. They were intent on discouraging all western media, even hot males like Anderson Cooper.

Also, Logan was about to report on the euphoria of the crowd after Mubarak resigned. A good assignment for any reporter.

These facts are not hard to come by.

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She wasn't raped...cbs alre... (Below threshold)

February 18, 2011 12:39 PM | Posted by Scott: | Reply

She wasn't raped...cbs already updated it although you probably won't find that on any front page.

Best I can guess is she was roughed up just like all the other reporters in the area and it was a good opportunity to shine a bad light on egyptian protesters....'hey see these muslims they are bad and scary'....'don't be like them and revolt against your own repressive government or your pretty women will be in trouble'.

Public media is meant to direct public opinion and what better way then sexy blondes.

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I know CBS Cares.I... (Below threshold)

February 18, 2011 1:03 PM | Posted by Jack Coupal: | Reply

I know CBS Cares.

It already told me.

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February 18, 2011 4:20 PM | Posted by BHE: | Reply

I didn't have to wonder if she was hot. I *knew* she was hot, because she is a news reporter, and they don't hire female news reporters and send them on sweet assignments if they look like Madeline Albright. Although to be fair I masturbate to Madeline Albright on a regular basis.

It's so impossible to find anything that even comes close to a real analysis of what's going on in the world out there that I've almost given up. And what I do find scares the shit out of me.

I'd write more but it's time for "Entertainment Tonight".

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Did you hear? Justin Bieber... (Below threshold)

February 18, 2011 4:52 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Did you hear? Justin Bieber thinks Lara Logan should keep the rape baby.

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February 18, 2011 5:47 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

I'm pretty sure the fact that this was just a regular beating but was reported as sexual assault only proves TLP's point.

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February 18, 2011 6:36 PM | Posted by JJ: | Reply

So what does it prove about TLP that he is the only one calling it rape?

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February 18, 2011 8:20 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

There was a lot of confusing misreporting. Sexual assault can refer to rape so many people assumed they were talking about rape. Despite that most news sites have tried to correct themselves, the generated buzz was filled with the word rape---

The rating when rape stories are reported are crazy. Suddenly there is a "legitimate" reason to describe details of activities that will be registered as sexual activities in most peoples minds. People like watching suffering-- see Roman ampitheaters, BDSM porn, movies filled with violence

We can make up "legitimate" reasons why we would read such news stories, but they know those stories will sell even if we think we're better than that.

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February 18, 2011 8:38 PM | Posted by Dave: | Reply

I'm a big fan of TLP, but this is a weak post. Aside from the detail that neither CBS nor Logan claimed she was raped, most of the war of words spurred by her attack had nothing to do with her looks. It had to do with:

A) A leftwing freelance journalist (Nir Rosen) making obnoxious comments in the wake of the attack because he thinks Logan is a "warmonger"(because she objected to the Rolling Stone reporter's sandbagging of General McChrystal last year).

B) Arguments by feminists attempting to preempt questions about whether it was safe to send a Western woman into a crowd of Egyptian protesters. These often did lead to "apologistics" about Egypt, and relativism about how violence against women was universal (attempts to "assert the patriarchy").

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February 19, 2011 12:34 AM | Posted, in reply to JJ's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

Why do you post here? You are a horrible human being.

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1) Logan is 39 years old. T... (Below threshold)

February 19, 2011 12:49 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

1) Logan is 39 years old. The media / you confabulated this image of her as a hot young bombshell. I am sure she was an attractive woman, but she was not the young, naive, giggling, blonde girl you are saying she was. She is a serious reporter. She was an older woman well past her 20s.
2) When I first heard the story, I didn't find it to be sexually tantalizing or intended to be as such. I took it as shocking. Perhaps the sexual angle made it all the more interesting and shocking, but not because it is sexually stimulating (like pornography), but rather because sex crimes are taboo, like sex is taboo, like crime is taboo, like interracial sex is taboo, and you have a bunch of taboos here.
The part of it that screamed loudest to me was the racial one: blonde woman, brown guys. They made sure to show her hair in the picture. You could barely see anything other than her blonde hair and this seemed intentional to me. I suspect(ed) the media, as per usual, is ganging up on arab muslims by painting them as gang rapists of caucasian women.
3) Regarding the retraction that Lara Logan was not raped... did any of you geniuses stop to think maybe her team is denying she was raped, because that is a personal and horrible and stigmatizing crime to have happen to you? Did it even occur to you that maybe it is in the best interest of everyone including CBS to backpedal the rape angle? How can you take seriously a reporter who was vulnerable and sexually assaulted while on assignment? If we know she was raped on assignment, from now on when we see her on TV we'll be thinking of how fragile she is and how tragic it was and how damaged now she must be. Did it even occur to you that it was totally inappropriate and sort of against the law in the first place to disclose that this woman was raped? Maybe CBS doesn't want any legal trouble from her, so the retraction was made.
If this woman was attacked by a mob of crazed men, I can *assure* you she was sexually assaulted. It wasn't maybe, it was definitely. That's what mobs of men do, from the beginning of time when we had mobs of men at war, the spoils of the war mean raping all the fertile women and killing everyone else. When society boundaries breaks down, when war and social upheaval rips through lands, women get raped. This is true everywhere, all the time, 100% of the time. The point of war, in a lot of ways, is rape (from an evolutionary perspective anyway). From south american indian tribes, to african tribes, to berlin in germany in WWII, women are raped if they are found after social upheaval/war. Old people, men, and children are murdered or used for slavery.

Given that rape is a certainty if she was really attacked prolonged by a mob of men, this means one of the following is true. A) Logan really was not ever in danger seriously, she was never attacked by a mob of men for a prolonged period of time. B) Logan was raped, and CBS is backpedaling for the reasons I outlined above.

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One must believe that "not ... (Below threshold)

February 19, 2011 3:26 AM | Posted by Lance de Boyle: | Reply

One must believe that "not all Egyptians are rapists"

Add a thousand blondes to the streets on a hot night and observe the swarm.

That little hat on the organ grinder's monkey didn't fool me. I knew it was a monkey for all that.

Civilization is more than jeans, a cell phone, and a couple of Kaiser rolls tapped to your head.

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February 19, 2011 4:35 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Dave: | Reply

"Logan is 39 years old. The media / you confabulated this image of her as a hot young bombshell."

TLP never mentioned "young"; that was you. That said, Lara Logan looks like a movie star (Naomi Watts, to be precise). So TLP didn't exaggerate her attractiveness. But that's besides the point.

"Given that rape is a certainty if she was really attacked prolonged by a mob of men..."

No it isn't. If anything, the number of men alleged in the crowd (hundreds) might make an actual rape less likely. Think about it for a moment.

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what does the author want t... (Below threshold)

February 19, 2011 4:44 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

what does the author want to be true, etc.

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February 19, 2011 4:51 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

I can tell what this comment poster wants to be true.

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February 19, 2011 4:59 AM | Posted by Whatever: | Reply

I didn't even have a chance to think about her looks because her picture was plastered next to the title of the story anyway.

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February 19, 2011 5:18 AM | Posted by Whatever: | Reply

Oh, and the only thing the story did is reconfirm the idea that brown men are rapist woman-hating pigs. Even though this could have easily happened with white, green, blue men too.

But there was some prejudice towards this matter already.

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February 19, 2011 6:39 AM | Posted by Zachary Burt: | Reply

dude i think youre a smart guy but i want to hear some pithy on point comments. HELLO we are in AMERICA you can make a PROFIT by capitalizing on attention. DUH!!!! CAN WE PLEASE MOVE PAST THAT AND SAY SOMETHING ORIGINAL NOW

xoxo.

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When the story broke, it wa... (Below threshold)

February 19, 2011 9:50 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

When the story broke, it was definitely reported as "raped" while others reported it as "sexually assaulted":

http://motherjones.com/mixed-media/2011/02/reporting-lara-logan-rape-sexual-assault

And where did you learn that they were pro-mubarak? All I see are the words "dangerous element in the crowd."

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February 19, 2011 10:00 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

It's well reported that the "pro-Mubarak supporters" were attacking media (as an extension of Mubarak's regime that was trying to shut down and control the media). It was reported even in the mainstream US media like CNN. I guess if one wasn't actually paying attention to the reports coming out of Egypt and was only reading sensationalist "rape" stories then one may be unaware of this.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-02/world/egypt.journalists.attacked_1_pro-mubarak-mubarak-supporters-president-hosni-mubarak?_s=PM:WORLD

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February 19, 2011 10:33 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

There are also reports that Anderson Cooper's hair and beautiful face were assaulted repeatedly by pro-Mubarak "supporters". One can only presume that is sexually motivated because he's a good looking man - clearly it has nothing to do with the fact that he's a Western reporter covering a peaceful uprising by the Egyptian people (that Mubarak was trying to turn ugly and violent) and, if not stopped, will show the world how an American supported dictator deals with threats like democracy breaking out in the Middle East.

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February 19, 2011 11:06 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

I wonder what percentage of the american population saw the headline and thought "I wonder where I can read the play by play of what happened happen" rather than having a sinking sad feeling in the gut. I wonder how many people felt both.

I get that there are probably people in the media who report this stuff without thinking too hard-- oh it's a story, let's put it up. But is it necessary to post someones assault with the word sexual assault attached to it?


The world knowing that you've been through sexual assualt can make it a lot more likely to be revictimized. I don't think media should consider reporting stories that they *think* involve sexual assault right after it happens to let the person who dealt with it recover and decide if they want their story shared.

And if the story must be posted, don't put a name and picture for crying out loud. Fortunately they didn't do so in this story --- but in general it's just never necessary to give a play by play of events. Even if the public classifies sexual assault as "non sexual" there is no reason that something a person didn't want happening to sexual parts of their body should be displayed for the whole world, just because "sexual assault isn't about sex"

We don't need to know the details. That's something a person who went through something like should be able to share in a safe space with people who are trustworthy.

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February 19, 2011 1:01 PM | Posted, in reply to Lance de Boyle's comment, by Gene Callahan: | Reply

"That little hat on the organ grinder's monkey didn't fool me. I knew it was a monkey for all that."

Ah, racism at its naked, raw essence!

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February 19, 2011 2:06 PM | Posted by Guest: | Reply

http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/

Maybe the reporter was perplexed by the local TTTT law school claiming a 98% employment rate within 9 months of graduation?

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February 19, 2011 3:23 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

re: pro-mubarak-- your link is from February 2, and it has nothing to do with Logan's attack, and I figured as much by the force of your opinion. You're making generalizations based on no information whatsoever, and then yelling them at us. You think that because pro-Mubarak supporters attacked journalists, that no one else attacks journalists?Safe to say you're anti-Mubarak.

Logan was previously arrested and beaten by Egyptian soldiers on Feb 3, but that's an entirely different incident than the one on Feb 15.

Find me one single article that reliably identifies the Feb 15 attackers as pro-Mubarak (or anti-Mubarak).

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February 19, 2011 4:09 PM | Posted, in reply to Zachary Burt's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

I think you missed the whole point of his post, in the final paragraph. We know the media sensationalizes to bring in viewers, but Alone's pointing out that this sensationalism of the news, labeled as pop culture, represents our entire understanding of the events. This explains why all of the above comments argue vociferously about the differences between sexual assault and rape, or which side was responsible for Ms. Logan's attacks, but probably couldn't find Egypt on a map.

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February 19, 2011 7:03 PM | Posted, in reply to Gene Callahan's comment, by Lance de Boyle: | Reply

"racism"

Ah, yes. The ever-popular put down, which, sadly, only works if one is vulnerable to that sort of high-level analysis.

Look up the word analogy. Add it too your vocabulary. Try to identify examples. It will do your intellect a world of good.

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February 19, 2011 7:36 PM | Posted, in reply to Lance de Boyle's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

We've established that she wasn't actually raped, and even if she was, what the fuck would that have to do with civilization? Get off your high horse

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February 19, 2011 8:12 PM | Posted, in reply to Zachary Burt's comment, by Claudius: | Reply

I was surprised to see you posting on the comments section of this blog. You still in touch with "dream" and "heartwork," and the old boys? Drop me a line on my old email sometime

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February 19, 2011 10:54 PM | Posted by someone: | Reply

"Honest up, wildpeople, when you heard a TV reporter named Lara Logan got sexually assaulted by a gang of hooligans, how much did you want to see what she looked like?"

I didn't even know I was supposed to have this reaction.

"How easy was it for your mind to turn "gang rape" into gang bang"?"

How easy was it to become a psychiatrist without learning what projection is?

"The story seems to be that she was raped by a bunch of hooligans, but that story is long gone in favor of the louder one, the one that's everywhere: did her looks have anything to do with it?"

You're the first person I've seen asking that question.

It's pretty clear why this happened: she was a foreign woman in the middle of rioting subhuman savages.

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February 19, 2011 10:54 PM | Posted by someone: | Reply

"Honest up, wildpeople, when you heard a TV reporter named Lara Logan got sexually assaulted by a gang of hooligans, how much did you want to see what she looked like?"

I didn't even know I was supposed to have this reaction.

"How easy was it for your mind to turn "gang rape" into gang bang"?"

How easy was it to become a psychiatrist without learning what projection is?

"The story seems to be that she was raped by a bunch of hooligans, but that story is long gone in favor of the louder one, the one that's everywhere: did her looks have anything to do with it?"

You're the first person I've seen asking that question.

It's pretty clear why this happened: she was a foreign woman in the middle of rioting subhuman savages.

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Oh, Lance, your post was ra... (Below threshold)

February 19, 2011 11:19 PM | Posted, in reply to Lance de Boyle's comment, by Gene Callahan: | Reply

Oh, Lance, your post was racist throughout! And you know if you weren't vulnerable to the charge, you wouldn't have bothered responding.

You and "someone" should get in touch for an Egyptian-hate fest.

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February 19, 2011 11:29 PM | Posted, in reply to Gene Callahan's comment, by someone: | Reply

You should get in touch with a bullet to the head for suggesting that I shouldn't call those creatures subhuman savages. You're probably a rapist yourself.

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February 20, 2011 12:12 AM | Posted, in reply to Gene Callahan's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

Too bad he doesn't even have the guts to go after ethnicities which he knows he'll get his ass kicked for saying things about, such as black people. Everyone can bag in on the muzzies, they're an easy target, it's okay to be racist against them. If there is anything worse than a racist, it's a cowardly one.

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February 20, 2011 10:15 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

I really like you, Alone, but this was weak.

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February 20, 2011 11:13 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by someone: | Reply

You are not in touch with reality. Muslims are incredibly hostile and volatile, as Europeans have witnessed over and over again. "Disrespecting" them or their beliefs is a good way to get yourself killed or under police protection.

I like how I am getting voted down for speaking against sexual abusers. I guess this is the rape culture that feminists are always talking about.

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February 20, 2011 12:35 PM | Posted, in reply to someone's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

No, you're getting down for being a racist and being totally blind to the fact that the "rape culture" aspect is actually being promoted by mainstream US media in the usual "our blond white women need to be protected from those brown savages". Alone's post was less about Egyptian culture and more about American culture and sensationalism (after all, this particular reporter was saved from dangerous situations twice by Egyptian men - the first time just regular people patrolling, in the second by the military and Egyptian women who stepped in). Considering that she was protected by Egyptian men once already when in a dangerous situation and it was Egyptian men and women who intervened to save her, clearly trying to paint all Egyptians as rapists has more to do with your beliefs than the reality of the situation. One of the dangers of being in a journalist in a dangerous situation is being attacked and killed - particularly by people trying to control the narrative and cling to power.

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February 20, 2011 1:32 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by someone: | Reply

"No, you're getting down for being a racist..."

Loolololololololoololololololol.

Listen to what the fuck you're saying: rape and sexual assault are a-okay as long as they're perpetrated by non-whites.

"...and being totally blind to the fact that the "rape culture" aspect is actually being promoted by mainstream US media..."

The rape culture is promoted by people who condone rape.

"...clearly trying to paint all Egyptians as rapists has more to do with your beliefs than the reality of the situation."

Clearly you can't read, but that's hardly surprising considering what a retard you are.

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February 20, 2011 1:33 PM | Posted by someone: | Reply

Also keep those thumbs down coming. If you thumb down enough comments the UN might move to decriminalize rape! Oh joy!

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February 20, 2011 2:14 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

someone - Please, I've been raped so I'm hardly condoning rape. The fact is that we don't even know if she was raped and sensationalizing whatever happened and speculating about it to sell media or a personal or political agenda is not condoning rape. The other thing that I'm pointing out is that this is a professional reporter and a grown woman, I'm sure she was aware of some of the dangers present in doing her job. Apart from anything else, she'd already been on the ground for a while in Egypt and experienced the dangers. That doesn't mean that anyone roughing up, kidnapping, raping or killing journalists is a good thing. It's just interesting that the many deaths of journalists get much less coverage in the mainstream media than Anderson Cooper or Lara Logan being assaulted. As do the citiznes being shot by dictators in neighboring states. The coverage of Logan is actually pretty belittling in many ways. Why? Because it totally ignores the possibility that as a professional journalist and grown woman, she was aware of the risks of her profession. Otherwise she would have stuck to being an entertainment reporter. This doesn't mean she "deserved it", it's pointing out that she doesn't deserve to have it sensationalized in a way that totally ignores the much larger context of being assaulted as a professional doing her job. The type of attack may have been because she was a woman but, within the context of how many journalists were attacked (and taken away by the secret police), it's much more likely she was attacked because she was a journalist.

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Lance and Someone- are you ... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 3:09 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Lance and Someone- are you guys neonazis or something? I'm convinced you're either neonazis or just really dedicated trolls. It takes some serious conviction to single out Egyptians of all people as "savages."

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Ordinarily, I try to refrai... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 4:26 PM | Posted, in reply to JJ's comment, by Tina Trent: | Reply

Ordinarily, I try to refrain from saying things online like "look, you moron." But you've earned it.

The difference between sexual assault and rape is technical. It involves penetration, and the type of penetration, if you must know, which clearly you don't, though you seem to have formed quite a little opinion about it.

So do me a favor and get back to the thinking, feeling world once you've boned up on sex crime law, both here and in Egypt, as it were.

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Oh, please, spare me the er... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 5:25 PM | Posted, in reply to Gene Callahan's comment, by Lance de Boyle: | Reply

Oh, please, spare me the erudite analysis. You have the mind of a newt.

I responded to you then, as I respond to you now, because I want to provoke you to respond again.

Let's see you get out of that one.

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People who are more interes... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 5:35 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

People who are more interested in deconstructing colonialist narratives and antiracist cred than in confronting the reality of the obscene levels of sexual assault in Muslim countries are evil.

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Yet another dope weighs in ... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 5:38 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Lance de Boyle: | Reply

Yet another dope weighs in with the trite and ever-so-devastating insult.

"neonazi." Lord, is that your best?

Try another.

Let me ask you something, Anonymous. In what way is your insulting me any different than what you believe I did re the sort of people who kill and rape women and consider it to be a sign of manhood?

Huh?

Also, in case you're up for thinking, rather than merely salivating like a well-conditioned dog to the sound of a bell, how is it racist or neonazi (not that you have any idea what a neonazi is) to suggest (as I did) that rapist egyptians are not civilized, but disguise that fact by aping (aping = organ grinder monkey. Do you get it now? Must I spell it out?)civilized persons by using modern gear?

But you won't respond.

You have shot (or dribbled) your (piddly) load and are now in need of a nap.

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"The fact is that we blah b... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 7:58 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by someone: | Reply

"The fact is that we blah blah blah..."

What does any of this have to do with me?

Anonymous: "It takes some serious conviction to single out Egyptians of all people as "savages.""

It takes some serious lack of education to not be able to read.

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Why don't you let me know y... (Below threshold)

February 20, 2011 9:20 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Tina Trent: | Reply

Why don't you let me know your real name, so we can talk about the definition of sexual assault, anonymous boy? Really. Have at.

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Internet Tough Guy spotted.... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 12:07 AM | Posted by someone: | Reply

Internet Tough Guy spotted.

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So you're a troll then? Got... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 1:01 AM | Posted, in reply to Lance de Boyle's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

So you're a troll then? Gotcha.

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For people who allegedly ar... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 3:51 AM | Posted by The Ascetic: | Reply

For people who allegedly are against "rape culture", some of these internet trollsies spend a curious amount of time attempting to perpetrate the verbal equivalent.

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February 21, 2011 8:43 AM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

Except, Someone, you keep continuing the assault on Logan by insisting she fit your narrative and that you speak for her. It's all very belittling of you and totally ignores who Logan is as an individual.She's not allowed to have her own experience, or deal with it privately, and you're actually seem to be going into exactly the kind of frenzy that the media does and that Alone is critiquing. They, and you, are feeding people the idea that a woman's worth is entirely tied up in her sexuality identity/body (what she looks like) and that the professional identity she worked so hard to achieve (what she does) means nothing. THAT is a part of creating "rape culture", and you're obviously just as willing to use Logan's body (without her permission) to push your own racist agenda. As someone who has actually been raped, I find that pretty offensive. And as a feminist, I find your use of Logan to push a racist agenda offensive. Your fear of brown men is about you, it's a racist issue and not a feminist one (just as "feminists" who hate men aren't actually loving and supporting women, they're simply hating men...hating men does not equal loving women, in fact it's kind of hard to hate half of humanity without some of that corrosive hate eating away at your own humanity).

Logan is an adult woman who works in the media, she's a journalist who chose to go into a potentially dangerous situation where reporters had already been attacked, she's clearly capable of deciding and creating her own narrative. If you really were actively feminist - meaning not someone who just claims an ideological label (superficial identity) but who seriously contributed and contributes (actions) to the fight for equality for women (though most of us who have been doing this for a while, fight for general human rights since racism and sexism are rarely far from each other) - then you wouldn't be negating and belittling Logan's courageous actions in favor of painting her as a "rape victim" and fanning the sensationalism of the mainstream media and their "rape culture" imagery.

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From "racist" to "troll."</... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 12:02 PM | Posted, in reply to Anonymous's comment, by Lance de Boyle: | Reply

From "racist" to "troll."

How droll.

We'll mark you down as incapable of argument.

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A bit more about Logan's pr... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 12:37 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

A bit more about Logan's professional experience and obvious experience both in covering wars and being in dangerous situations and also in the Middle East. Seems that she's quite aware of sexism, including that of Western men that want to denigrate her professionally.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2001/nov/05/terrorismandthemedia.broadcasting1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/may/22/broadcasting5?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

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LOL troll is trolling. Way ... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 2:40 PM | Posted, in reply to Lance de Boyle's comment, by Anonymous: | Reply

LOL troll is trolling. Way to go buddy

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Is rape a crime of violence... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 3:51 PM | Posted by CLR: | Reply

Is rape a crime of violence? I don't know, is murder?

Poisoning someone isn't usually violent, but they get just as dead.

Just a thought.

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"Except, Someone, you keep ... (Below threshold)

February 21, 2011 8:17 PM | Posted by someone: | Reply

"Except, Someone, you keep continuing the assault on Logan by insisting she fit your narrative and that you speak for her. Blah blah blah."

Users on this site have a strange tendency to launch into walls of rambling text that make no sense and are apparently not related to anything that has been said.

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There's a whole lot of waaa... (Below threshold)

February 22, 2011 3:24 AM | Posted by Abby Anon: | Reply

There's a whole lot of waaaah going on here.

To sum up everyone's comments, there's a rape culture of brown men who are raped for their good looks and we shouldn't condemn an entire country of journalists for packaging and serving surprise sex, even if Anderson Cooper and Lara Logan are proantimubarak narrative supporters.

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I gotta wonder, if you woul... (Below threshold)

February 22, 2011 12:26 PM | Posted by spriteless: | Reply

I gotta wonder, if you would have written as much about secretaries being chosen for their looks 20 years ago then? What golden age of something-other-than-narcissism existed...

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So a couple columns back dr... (Below threshold)

February 22, 2011 3:56 PM | Posted by Consistency: | Reply

So a couple columns back drug reps couldn't be hot because it would be illegal to hire only hot people and impossible to have a conspiracy to do so.

And now of course the new reporter was hot because you assume they only hire hot reporters.

Whatever dude.

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"You know what I don't know... (Below threshold)

February 23, 2011 12:48 AM | Posted by another anonymous: | Reply

"You know what I don't know about Lara Logan? Who raped her. Pro-Mubarak or anti-? Too bad, that's what I want to know, so I know whether to write the country off for the next decade or the next five decades." Indeed. (Although, since the Middle East is running out of water, five decades may be too long-range. In Yemen, 40 percent of the water is used to grow kat.)

"all of this is pop culture and you're eyeballs deep in it and there is no where else to turn": All your heuristics are belong to us.

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Much like fundamentalist pr... (Below threshold)

February 25, 2011 12:45 AM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Much like fundamentalist preachers claiming that The Gay is so pernicious because gay sex is way way better, the beginning of this article says a lot more about you than it does about the people you're talking about.

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February 25, 2011 10:12 AM | Posted by medsvstherapy: | Reply

"Although, since the Middle East is running out of water, five decades may be too long-range."

Middle-East power will collapse when the water runs out?

I would rather have oil and take it and go by oil, than have water and take it to go by oil.

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Hello? 90% of Egyptian wome... (Below threshold)

February 28, 2011 9:21 PM | Posted by Eddy: | Reply

Hello? 90% of Egyptian women have had their genitals mutilated/cut (source: the UN). The savages that raped – oops – 'sexually assaulted' (although one wonders what the point of difference here is when it involves 200 men) here apparently yelling, "Jew! Jew!" as they rushed her (note: she's not a Jew). Take that and the universal agreement that it was a foolish decision on Logan and her superiors' part to be there.

Add those up, what do you get?

Perhaps that Egyptian culture is backward and misogynistic? NO THAT'S RACIST NOT ALL EGYPTIANS ARE RAPISTS OMG YOUR A TROLL, THIS IS THE MEDIA FEARMONGERING ABOUT ARAB MUSLIMS BEING EVIL

Oh, sorry. I meant brown people are great.

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Rape is epidemic in America... (Below threshold)

March 2, 2011 2:36 AM | Posted, in reply to Eddy's comment, by The Devastator: | Reply

Rape is epidemic in America too. Attacks like the one on Logan are just as possible in America, given a similar mob, and similar lack of law and order. Picture the average American man. Put a few thousand of him in a crowded, chaotic environment with no police. Now drop a pretty blonde woman into the middle of the crowd. What happens?

Not saying all American men are rapists, or even potential rapists. I'm just saying that the attack happening in an American setting is not totally inconceivable. You have no basis for drawing sweeping conclusions about race or culture from this.

It's worth noting also that the people who rescued Logan were also Egyptian.

I like a post I saw on a blog somewhere after the story broke:

"Appropriate responses to this story:

1. 'What a terrible thing to have happened.'
2. See (1)."

That's exactly right.

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Egypt sent her back to the ... (Below threshold)

March 7, 2011 2:07 PM | Posted by Anonymous: | Reply

Egypt sent her back to the states during the uprising. When she arrived back in the good old U.S.A., she immediately hopped back on a plane to Cairo...She knew something would happen. Rape? Quite possibly.

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