The Trouble With Charlie Sheen
You want me to confirm he's bipolar? An addict? A narcissist? You don't need me for any of those things.
You can judge a man by what he says or by what he done, and this is what he's done: taken Scarface levels of drugs and slept with lots of pornstars, gotten rich, kept his hair, and not gotten fat, skinny, or AIDS. Not bad for a Wikipedia page. Mine just says, "horny/scurvy."
And he's held down a job, well, up to now anyway, and produced products that reveal absolutely no hint whatsoever of his personal behaviors. I'll give you a thousand bucks if you can find the scene in Navy Seals that looks like he was doing 7 gram rocks. (Ok, ok, the whole movie looks like...)
Of course, as fun as all that sounds-- and I admit it sounds wicked awesome-- he's also having legal, employment, and diagnostic issues, and if you put your ear up to the TV you can hear America breathing a collective sigh of relief, thank God he's falling apart, because if he wasn't crazy and there's no God then what rationalization could you possibly have for not following his lead? We want our celebrities sexy and wild but the narrative has to include a built in reason why we can't imitate them, something like divorces and cops and rehabs but definitely not genetics, lack of commitment and social retardation. Your life sucks, but at least you have your health. Enjoy your five ounces of wine a day.
II.
"Why do you sleep with pornstars?" asks the marionette from 20/20 after weeks of texting him and visiting his home. Seriously? What answer is she waiting for? I'm not saying it's for everyone, but the question answers itself, right? It's a tautology.
The question her producers are getting her to ask in this po-mo way is, "what's it like to be able to sleep with pornstars? Got any footage?" I wish they would simply have asked it that way, but she doesn't want to appear salacious, she wants to appear concerned, indignant, superior.
In a particularly enlightening exchange, she recalls a radio interview he had done and proclaims, "one message you put out there that didn't sit well with people was that using crack socially was ok as long as you can manage it." Sheen's insanity suddenly disappears and he laughs in her face. "Was that a joke?" she asks indignatiousnessly. "Come on," Sheen says shaking his head, "you're a smart [sic] lady [sic], what do you think? Of course it was a joke, because it was so absurd..." Sheen may have a highly evolved brain but there was a better answer: "I do crack, and you all think it's hilarious. I say I do crack, and you all get self-righteous. I sleep with pornstars, you all want details. I say that I sleep with pornstars, and you all judge me. I may be crazy, but you-- you, you manipulative harpies, are just terrible, manipulative, harpies. Interview over. I'm going on break."
III.
An observation: Sheen went publicly insane early last week. It wasn't until this Tuesday night, after Extra and Today started showing the goddesses, that the court ordered an extraction team to medivac his kids. He's had a week of full on insanity, 20/20 had an entire crew in his house last Saturday, Radar was in there all day and no one felt obligated to rescue the children, but go on TV and publicly say you like multiple vaginas and they put your name on a database. No more interstate travel for you.
IV.
Is Charlie Sheen bipolar?
The only thing you're never supposed to do in psychiatry is offer an opinion without conducting a full psychiatric examination, they're very emphatic about this, which is weird because half your grade on the psychiatric board exam comes from diagnosing a guy in a 10 minute video clip from 1977. (Academic dishonesty spoiler alert: he has OCD.) Thus, I will reveal here that I conducted a brief examination of Charlie Sheen, online, from my car.
I know mania when I see it, but I also know that there are a dozen reasons for mania that I can't see from the outside. The pressured grandiosity is pretty characteristic, the cause of it isn't.
But there's a much bigger story about Charlie Sheen's illness you won't see anywhere, way more important than his actual diagnosis.
Lunatic or not, Sheen makes one very solid point: CBS is not doing right by him. I don't care what he's done, Charlie Sheen is a big time actor from a Hollywood royalty pedigree, CBS made a fortune and a half on him, and now when he needs somebody in his life with a little power to step in and help him make some better decisions, they abandon him.
Forget CBS, I'll go further and say that all of Hollywood abandoned him, as they do all of their "employees." Ok, so he fires his publicist and goes on several different interview shows talking about his time as the Air Force. You know what each and every one of those shows should have done? Refused to let him on. Not aired the segments. Whatever happened to taking care of your own? SAG, and all that? Viacom should have declared a media blackout immediately, so the public wouldn't even know he was going nuts, or at the very least not display it on purpose. There's something very cannibalistic about Hollywood, we're not surprised when they drool over an exposed breast or turn on a President, but am I the only one who finds it weird that they eat each other after years of relationships and profit? Is there any species other than soccer players that think it's ok to eat one of their own when they get ill?
Sheen made money from, and for, Hollywood, and when they couldn't make any more money off him that way they let him on Piers Morgan and made money off him that way. Is his breakdown so important 20/20 devoted an hour to it? Is it news? Doesn't this distract us from $100 oil and the fact that Egypt's Facebook Revolution is being run by the military, or is that the whole point after all?
This is CBS, this isn't some half-assed intervention by the five other waiters at the TGIFridays, CBS has limitless resources, they could spend a million dollars to hire a battalion of psychiatrists or extraordinary rendition him to Paraguay and not only not miss the money, but make a profit when he comes back fluent in Spanish. Dos y Media Hombres! Even the Federal Government takes better care of its battle fatigued, and that's saying a lot, because they suck at it.
Whether Sheen did this to himself is irrelevant, and didn't you tell us mental illness was "no one's fault?" You don't abandon a guy when he needs you most even when he's fighting you, especially when he's fighting you. He didn't hurt you, he didn't attack you, all he did was go bananas. You don't drag him out into the open and tie a honey sandwich around his neck and let bears eat him. "Well, we tried to help him before." You keep trying, that's your job as his "friends" or his coworkers or whatever you said you were to him a month ago, and for damn sure you don't videotape it to trade for Camel Cash or whatever currency CBS uses nowadays.
It's the old psychiatric argument, genetics or environmental? I can't comment on Sheen's genetics, but his environment blows. And yes, that's a professional opinion.
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March 3, 2011 1:38 PM | Posted by : | Reply
You're forgetting that Charlie Sheen made all that money for CBS by playing a character on Two and a Half Men that was exactly like Charlie Sheen. CBS doesn't own the rights to that character if Charlie Sheen was just playing himself. He can take the exact same crazy to the movies as another character named 'Charlie' and print money for someone else.
March 3, 2011 1:39 PM | Posted by : | Reply
The scene in Navy Seals you are referring to is the one where Charlie Sheen's character Hawkins is in his cabin after the mission saying "I am so jacked up. I can feel it flowing through me, right through me."
Unfortunately I can not find this clip on Youtube.
Where is my money?
March 3, 2011 2:16 PM | Posted by : | Reply
They do it to all the big celebrities who implode [although that last bit almost seems repetitive]. It might not help the celebrity, but it certainly helps the career. While every middle-aged stay-at-home-mom is biting her nails that her ALL TIME FAVORITE actor is rushing down a death spiral, CBS is probably trying to keep up the momentum. Keep him in the news, keep people interested in him, manufacture some new event. Ultimately, he'll get better (or at least pretend to) then there will be a book deal or 3, speaking engagements on the dangers of *-abuse, and a down-to-earth sitcom featuring the revamped Sheen.
He'll be walking about like a zombie, and probably still be sick, but he won't be drowning in crack and bonking hookers, so the audience will happily hand over more cash.
March 3, 2011 2:18 PM | Posted by : | Reply
"Dos y Media Hombres"
Here, at least, it's "Two and a Half Men." Most shows, they dub. Two and a Half Men, they subtitle. At least they do in Colombia. The Simpsons is dubbed, they call it "Los Simpson." Homer's dubbed voice is hilarious, not like his American voice at all, but strangely fitting.
March 3, 2011 3:02 PM | Posted by : | Reply
The "news" outlets are a fucking joke, but we knew that. Have you ever seen so many hyenas rush to the carcass? There's no story here--every producer knows this guy is one step away from a 5150 and just wants to be the one that had the cameras rolling when he finally took out a revolver and blew his own head off, or stripped naked on camera and tried to rape the reporter. Because then, more hits to the website and now we can afford the tasting menu twice a week.
WINNING
March 3, 2011 5:31 PM | Posted by : | Reply
http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/
At least he didn't go to law school.
March 3, 2011 5:50 PM | Posted by : | Reply
I found this really refreshing; both for tearing down the entire "infotainment" industry as the cultural blight that it is, and for cutting through all the bullshit the psychiatric industry puts up to cover their butts. Thanks for just answering a question (even though I didn't ask it), and for pointing out where the real insanity is.
I think the most obvious sign of Sheen's insanity is that he's fed into all this media obsession for years. Countless film actors and musicians manage to keep their private lives private, with the possible exception of getting on and off airplanes and being tackled by TMZ. Not only is he batshit crazy, he's invited the world into it. I can't think of a better example of a cry for help. And, you're right; everyone ignored it.
March 3, 2011 6:05 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Joaquin Phoenix had a freak out a couple years ago that turned out to be fake. But the resulting film, I'm Still Here, is pretty good. Charlie Sheen ought to go check it out on netflix instant. When a star's career and personal life go to hell, there's still a lot of meat on the bone for all kinds of media types, so they aren't going to do shit other than televise them. The people closest to somebody that big are probably also dependent on them to some degree, and therefore don't have the juice to check them.
This freak out appears to be real, and the sound bites are even better. God help him.
All any director of programming cares about is ratings, not content. This is what they think we want to see. Yeah, it's a car wreck, hard to look away. But it's not any car, it's a Ferari that was doing sixty-five in a twenty five. Sitting in my Mitsubishi Galant having to stress over a thirty-five dollar parking ticket, I was kind of secretly hoping it would crash anyway.
March 3, 2011 6:11 PM | Posted by : | Reply
I like the stance you took on this.
We all need to try and help people that are suffering and Charlie Sheen is certainly suffering from something right now. It is difficult, but important, that we are compassionate to our fellow human beings who are suffering. The last thing that needs to happen for someone suffering from mental illness is to put it on public display and watch the person deteriorate.
I think the media could really advocate for those who are suffering with either mental illness and/or addiction with this story, but of course, they're just out for the cash. The sensationalism. You gave a good look at how the networks are capitalizing on his descent from reality. It is saddening.
Plenty more people watch ABC, CBS, etc. than read this blog, but I am glad that one person is taking a stand to say that he needs help and not passive judgment. (And that anyone who is suffering needs the same.) We, as a society, have a long way to go before those with mental illness no longer face unnecessary stigma, but I think being outspoken on the issue helps. Thank you TLP.
March 3, 2011 7:23 PM | Posted by : | Reply
I look at it like this.
You have no idea what Charlie Sheen was like before he fell apart totally. Perhaps he was ALWAYS a raging asshole, but they kept it under wraps and dealt with it because he was making $$$. Perhaps a WHOLE lot of people in hollywood are rubbing their hands and cackling at the idea that finally this POS is getting his just deserts. News flash: a lot of celebrities are utter trolls of human beings who treat the non-famous (and minorly famous) as if they are slaves.
You think he's manic. Where's the evidence, besides the fact he is a grandiose asshole completely out of touch with reality? I would argue every single superstar exhibits that behavior (see: lady gaga, madonna, countless others ...).
The only thing that makes old charlie different from the usual grandiosity/lack of touch with reality is that charlie became belligerent, stopped schmoozing, and began biting the hand that fed his ass. Perhaps this has a lot to do with why they cut him loose and let us feast on his corpse?
Maybe Charlie is saying "fuck you" back, not because he's manic and lost his marbles, maybe he sees the writing on the wall: I"m DONE. He's been abandoned by everyone. So, why not go down in flames, ala lohan? If Charlie starts walking around with the words "fuck u" on his nails I won't be surprised, and I won't think he's manic. That's how I expect someone to behave who knows they are done, but wants to go down in a blaze (savor that attention right through to the very end).
I mean, when people are manic, you can see it in their body. Their eyes dart, they speak fast, they pace and walk about. Nervous energy. They don't merely exhibit irrational grandiosity (especially when the person is a superstar, born in a superstar family, whos life is falling apart... then , well, i would expect crazy ass shit about how great it is to spew from its mouth hole).
See when Britney Spears went manic (or drug induced manic, whichever) it was pretty obvious she was crazy. Her eyes were wild, she was totally irrational and out of control. She shaved her head, and started bashing in her ex's car. Thats crazy. When you saw her face sitting in the back of the car with that hazed smile and far away stare, everyone knew she was psychotic.
How does charlie sheen's common adolescent "i don't give a fuck and never have to face consequences" even remotely comparable to obvious mania? Now I"m not saying he's not manic, I'm just saying it is far from obvious and it's much more likely he's just having a psychological crisis accepting that his life has found itself squarely in the shitter, as a result of his behaviors over the years.
No wonder mental health sucks so bad, if you think it is obvious charlie sheen is manic, pfft what chances do your patients have.
March 3, 2011 7:52 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Thanks for some sanity on the sideshow this guy's crackup has become. It's loathsome of the people who made so much money off him not to shield him from more exposure and get him help. Whether he wants it or not.
You can't always wait for the person to feel "ready". With several relatives with variants of this disorder, one thing I've seen is that the person doesn't have to be a celebrity for people to just stand back and let them make a jackass of themself and do more and more damage...Sometimes there's a vindictive element to letting the person have more rope to hang themselves, sometimes there's fear of their rage if one intervenes. Celebrities have it worse than poor people or nonentities as most doctors and friends just tell them what they want to hear, and don't dare confront or commit them or force them to take meds or get treatment (fear of being sued?)
It's probably pointless to put someone like him in hospital. As a celebrity, a person will almost never get good treatment. Even if their doctor doesn't give a [email protected]#$ who they are, and treats the sick patient, aides and nurses and social workers will be all aflutter and will give them special privileges. Other patients will suck up, and he just won't be treated the same.
March 3, 2011 8:18 PM | Posted by : | Reply
You may enjoy charlie sheen & new yorker cartoons: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/charlie-sheen-quotes-as-new-yorker-cartoons
And is it possible to buy TLP a beer and bourbon? because damn i feel like I owe him (and pastabagel too!) one. or five.
March 3, 2011 8:38 PM | Posted by : | Reply
I was eagerly anticipating your thoughts on this saga :)
March 3, 2011 9:29 PM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
Unlike addiction, being hospitalized for mania works just as well if you are rich, if you are poor, if you are privileged or not. IF YOU END UP IN THE HOSPITAL for mania, there is a very good probability the hospitalization will be effective for your mania. Unlike drug addiction, mania is 100% a physiological illness. If and when you end up in the nut house for mania, you are given major tranquilizers to stop the mania. Haldol doesn't care if your prince charles, haldol shuts off your brain sooner or later.
The thing that separates the famous from unfamous in terms of craziness, is that the famous rarely end up in the nuthouse because they have handlers and on call psychiatrists and a lot of people who will put up with them jazzing around the house at night pacing screaming and throwing lamps at people. However if a famous person ends up in the nut bin or sectioned then they are dosed up with drugs all the same as the other nuts. See, Adam Ant (FABULOUS 80S PUNK ROCK SINGER - SEX MUSIC FOR SEX PEOPLE!!). Adam Ant has real (not fake like charlie sheen) manic depression and has been sectioned just like all the rest, even while famous in the UK.
Your argument does not hold any water, because you are assuming manic depression is a psychological/social illness like being a narcissist or a drug addict (which is personally all I believe charlie sheen suffers from). Manic depression is like having pneumonia... if you go to the hospital for mania, you will leave the hospital better, usually, unless something went terribly wrong in your clinical case. Sometimes there is refractory mania but that's rare, and assuming charlie sheen was manic, he's at best hypomanic. No psychosis.
March 3, 2011 9:36 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Oh, and its bullshit that a famous person can't get good care for bipolar disorder.
The parade of fake bipolar celebrities is largely the result of psychiatrists diagnosing any prolific slightly creative/passionate individual with manic depression, irregardless of how weak the case is for that diagnosis.
When you read the symptoms and histories of so many of these fake bipolar celebrities, it's obvious they are full of shit and the only reason they got the diagnosis is because some lame ass psychiatrist was like 'OMG A FAMOUS SINGER AND POET AND ACTOR IS IN MY OFFICE FOR A MOOD DISTURBANCE, BIPOLAR BIPOLAR BIPOLAR OMG I'M CUMMING I CANT WAIT TO WRITE A BIOGRAPHY ABOUT THIS"
99% of the time, these so called "bipolar" celebrities were recently using a shitton of narcotics or prescription drugs prior to their "bipolar symptoms". Yea, if I was smoking crack and coke I'm pretty sure I would go manic too. Oh no wait, that's not manic. Going insane with symptoms like mania from hard stimulants is the expected course of things.
Meanwhile, low functioning, less intelligent, less attractive, less white people come into a psychiatrists office across town, with WAY MORE CLEAR CUT manic depressive symptoms, and they are stamped "schizoaffective/schizophrenic", given a big bag of haldol / risperdal, some expandable pants and a social security check care package and they are sent on their way.
March 3, 2011 10:13 PM | Posted by : | Reply
It was rugby players, not soccer players. Otherwise spot on.
March 3, 2011 10:43 PM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
I don't assuming it's just a psychological/social illness-- of course it's largely biological. But show me a bipolar person who doesn't also have psychological and/or personality problems and/or addictive tendencies and I'll be very surprised.
I have looked after several generations of relatives with this disorder, in both the UK and this country so I've seen a lot of different hospitals, and different kinds of manic episodes. Not everybody's symptoms can be brought under control with medication right away (short of elephant tranquillizer...er...haldol). In fact, the longer someone like Sheen goes on manic, the longer it will take to bring him down. I've had relatives sectioned over six months who were still wired when the NHS could no longer hold them against their will (after having had every med possible tried on them).
As for the famous people? I think that English hospitals treat patients so bloody awfully (ie: are so relatively dehumanizing, treat patients like stupid children, and are so relatively authoritarian compared to American ones) that perhaps they would treat a manic celebrity as "just another nutter". But from what I've observed visiting people on American locked units, the famous patients get treated very differently, have a private room when others have to share, get the better doctor on the unit, people are nicer to them, etc. Sure, they don't get to drink and they have to take meds and they're locked up and mad as hell about that. But they get cut a lot more slack within the hospital community than the mere plebes.
I absolutely agree with you about their having handlers and people on the outside, tho who help to keep them out of the hospital and how bad this is for them and everyone else.
If you want to read a truly dreadful example of how celebrity can lead to bad treatment, read the maudlin biography by novelist Danielle Steele about the bipolar disorder and suicide of her teen son. Had he been Joe Schmo, people MIGHT not have told his anxious parents such mealymouthed stuff for so long, and might have told her that he was really ill a lot sooner.
March 3, 2011 10:52 PM | Posted by : | Reply
I wish I could buy you a beer. Or a Prozac, or whatever your psychotropic of choice is.
March 3, 2011 11:23 PM | Posted by : | Reply
HEHEHE
I have a confession!
You know what? I wish to retract my prior statements that C. Sheen is not manic.
I actually just watched a few minutes of the interviews on 20/20 and listened to the radio interviews.
Mmmmm... Yea. He might be manic.
The reason I think he's manic is because I am laughing hysterically with that guilty "it's wrong to laugh at sick people" feeling I get when I laugh at manic people. I admit it, I laugh at manic people (this is why I don't work with mental health patients :) ... Face it manic people can be funnay!!)
He's hittin' all the manic high notes. Pressured speech, a constant torrent of hilarious grandiose statements, agitated physical behavior. If only he were to start singing and pacing in the interview, he would be certifiable. He reminds me of myself when I am crazy except waaaay worse / way more public hahaha.
Poor charlie sheen. Depakote lithium haldol ativan help help help.
I'M BI WINNING
lolololol
aw :(
In summary, I apologize for my hasty admonishment of Mr. Sheen as a fake manic and TLP as a bad psychiatrist. After watching the 20/20 interview, it's clear he is having a gradual manic crack up in front of everyone. Good lord he is classic! I am disappointed he did not break out into song, who doesn't love a good manic sing a long?
March 3, 2011 11:52 PM | Posted by : | Reply
I second the statement on perspective. Thank you for the breath of fresh air!
March 4, 2011 1:44 AM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
"Now I"m not saying he's not manic, I'm just saying it is far from obvious and it's much more likely he's just having a psychological crisis accepting that his life has found itself squarely in the shitter, as a result of his behaviors over the years."
Now, I'm not saying you're an ignorant moron, I'm just saying you may have the causality wrong.
March 4, 2011 2:11 AM | Posted by : | Reply
He's Charlie @TAHM writ large.
Jesus, watch every single actor on every single talk show when they are promoting a moveie / TV show, and they explicitly adopt the personae of the character - to SELL the movie / tv show.
It's part of the narrative, "well gee Johnny, actually I'm a lot like xyz in real life."
It reduces the suspension of disbelief, giving the actor a better shot of convincing you you like the move when you are watching it.
The point here is Charlie Sheen is ABLE to act like this, BECAUSE we have already bought into and loved, followed the character.
It's really hard to have spent 10 years laughing at drunkwhoremonger Charlie and tsk, tsk now. He's not Mel Gibson, this is his full time gig.
Personally, I think he should go balls to the wall Hunter Thompson, play the part, keep his shit together - and raise an entire generation who no longer reads books, on Gonzo twitter style.
Call it a public service.
March 4, 2011 2:38 AM | Posted by : | Reply
You mean they actually have moderators in US television that don't wear porn star make up? That is still a lot of slap but it looks almost wholesome compared to some others.
And yes, if some of the Real Bipolar people I know would have Charlie Sheen status that's how they would act. Including antagonizing their employer. Especially antagonizing their employer. Really good at it in fact.
March 4, 2011 2:43 AM | Posted by : | Reply
These days people are unlike to mess up their career over something like this. Make comment about the juice however and you're DONE forever. (Galliano R.I.P.)
March 4, 2011 8:53 AM | Posted by : | Reply
March 4, 2011 9:11 AM | Posted by : | Reply
From the armchair: He's not manic. He is an addict in full glory. It is painfully obvious. If he is manic, then we need to recognize that he is having an unusually long hypomanic period, of months at least, where he is being amazingly collaborative and productive, while doing a lot of drugs. I have not seen that in any ppl in hypomania. Maybe others have. I have seen it in plenty of high-functioning people with addiction. Entire careers spent in this mode.
March 4, 2011 9:12 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Hollywood did a great job of ignoring Randy Quaid last year.
March 4, 2011 2:04 PM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
This is a good point MvT
(I'm the anon that criticized sheen as a fake manic, and then retracted after I watched the interview where he claimed to be 100% sober).
I thought of that as well; if he's nutz, then all things come to an end and there should be periods where he is not. Bipo features depression as well, which he mocked in the interview suggesting he's never had it.
There is unipolar mania, and some bipolars are chronically hyopmanic. Possible in this case?
Or, more likely, is he just lying about being sober? Who knows.
March 4, 2011 2:11 PM | Posted by : | Reply
The speculation that this guy is a manic wacko comes squarely on the fact that C. Sheen said "I'LL PEE I A CUP RIGHT NOW I'M CLEAN", i.e. his word he is clean.
Because, if he is NOT clean, we can dismiss all of this acting out as drug induced.
I believe there were some drug tests done that were clean as well. But, that doesn't mean he is totally clean, does it?
March 5, 2011 12:59 AM | Posted by : | Reply
This is all fine, but I believe you still owe us a post on Jared Loughner. I believe it's in the contract you signed when you started a free anonymous blog on random topics. We will take legal action if necessary.
March 5, 2011 9:18 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Sheen reminds me of Tom Cruise at his most Scientologyish couch jumping manic, are you sure the Scientologists didn't get to him? He's got that manic intensity of someone who has been pumped up on grandiose lies. Sean Penn inviting Sheen to "help" Haiti would kind of make sense in that context, considering how many Scientologists flooded into Haiti to promote faith healing and paranoia and lies about real medicine, like vaccines, that actually saves lives. He's exactly the sort of actor they love to prey upon.
March 5, 2011 9:24 AM | Posted by : | Reply
The whole idea that his brain works on some superior alien level is very Scientologyish too - the "superior" Theta alien thingy. Not that L Ron Hubbard's fake science/religion/medicine con, which is so obviously contrived by someone who was insane and grandiose themselves, isn't just a fancy story to dress up mental illness as superior intelligence. Amongst other purposes it served for Hubbard and the minions that followed in his footsteps, of course.
March 5, 2011 10:02 AM | Posted by : | Reply
"Winning?"
"Finally, just before this story went to press, actor Michael D. Roberts called and offered--demanded, actually--to be interviewed. "I've had many wins in Scientology, and I've been a member for twenty years," he said. But he insisted on meeting face-to-face and said he wasn't available for "several weeks," repeatedly refusing to be interviewed on the phone right then and there."
"Romance and Scientologists seem to go hand in hand. Prior to marrying Travolta, Preston had lived with Charlie Sheen, reportedly the target of a Scientology recruitment attempt. (Sheen was sufficiently disturbed by his contact with his former girlfriend's religion that he refused an interview with PREMIERE but offered this quote: "I have no involvement in that form of silliness.") Cruise got in after marrying Mimi Rogers, and Brad Pitt took his courses while dating Juliette Lewis. This seems to be something of a tradition. As Rose describes the early Celebrity Centre, there were always "a lot of women around. It was probably a great draw in those days, for my generation of Scientologists--it was a great place to get laid."
March 5, 2011 10:39 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Sheen's totally correct about AA being bullshit though, studies have shown that the success rate is lower for people in AA than for people who quit on their own. Like Scientology, when it comes to addiction AA is more of a religious cult than anything remotely related to either science or medicine. Though I doubt AA actually kills as many people as Scientology pseudoscience pushed by NarcAnon or NA or whatever they call their vitamin detox scam (Scientology is also heavily involved in the chiropractor and "alt med" industry).
March 5, 2011 11:00 AM | Posted by : | Reply
On the upside for Charlie, maybe his grandiosity is actually serving to protect him from Scientology - after all, if you're high on Sheen do you need to snort Hubbard?
March 5, 2011 11:59 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Kept his hair? I guess krazy glue is some pretty strong stuff.
March 5, 2011 12:00 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Kept his hair? I guess krazy glue is some pretty strong stuff.
March 5, 2011 12:05 PM | Posted by : | Reply
come on people, it's all a hoax. of course some interviewer who has the world experience of your mother is going to be the best person to convince he was "banging 7 gram rocks, cuz that's how i roll." add some stream of consciousness and you're golden. he gets out of his crappy show that was going on forever, and simultaneously starts his Andrew WK-style enthusiasm seminar. read his frickin' twitter for chrissakes, the guy's working with a plan.
March 5, 2011 12:17 PM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
do you know what's the most interesting thing to me about loughner? how many mugshots they took of him.
March 5, 2011 12:43 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Having a plan and being mentally ill, having a personality disorder or being an addict are hardly mutually exclusive. Apart from anything else, all the "winner" talk is likely just a narcissistic defense about being called and/or perceived as a loser - he forgets that he's being called a loser not because he can afford to buy crack and porn stars but because those porn stars end up hiding in closets to get away from him.
March 5, 2011 1:04 PM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
What makes you think it's defense rather than offense? He's been in the game long enough to know how to play Hollywood, and his Pop's no slouch for a mentor, either. What would *you* do if you were in his position, on a show like his, and wanted to be left alone for a few years?
March 5, 2011 1:41 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Because it came after he was starting to be called a loser and the story about the scared porn star/prostitute in the hotel broke (and his comments about how she's nobody and he's somebody, even though he was paying her to be there like anyone else with the money could). It's a simple matter of timeline. He's now tying to kind of do damage control and to pretend it's all part of some master plan. It's not even like it was his idea to monetize his notoriety via twitter, someone else around him saw a way to make sure he remained a cash cow to be milked.
March 6, 2011 2:51 AM | Posted by : | Reply
A thought just occurred to me as the movie Hot Shots came on the TV channel I was watching. I started from the idea that they're probably showing Hot Shots all over the world lately with Charlie Sheen's latest meltdown, great chance to cash in on the latest news I guess.
As I was watching the opening scenes I noticed a moment where Sheen's character is riding his bike paralell to a jet fighter taking off. He's wearing aviators, leather jacket, riding a harley, it's a classic "character" image. He lets out a yell of joy at the plane screaming past him. Being a parody film he then hits a bunch of speed bumps, ruining the perfect image. It's a scene that paralells and makes fun of Tom Cruise's character and his "perfect" character experiences in Top Gun. And it's somehow really satisfying, funny.
Parody films seeem to allways star an idiot who thinks he's something brilliant. It's allways obvious to the audience how much of an idiot he actually is, but he somehow bumbles his way through by dumb luck, blind to how false his personal interpretation of his life is. And it's gratifing to see. I reckon spoof films work because they mock the rediculous narcissistic image of 'serious' films like Top Gun.
If Top Gun is a narcissist's view of his life, Hot Shots is pretty well the rest of the world's. Few people are fooled in the long run but themselves.
March 6, 2011 3:42 AM | Posted by : | Reply
I had manic illness once.
After three or four years, I traded it in for a generalized anxiety disorder.
Sure, the vim and zip have gone out of my life, and I'm pretty sure I can't go on much longer, what with the racing heart, roiling guts, and acute heebie jeebie episodes.
But the hours are way better and you don't get all those co-workers saying, "Hey, WILL you JUST shut the fuck up, you crazy bastard?!"
March 6, 2011 11:38 AM | Posted by : | Reply
IMO Sheen is not insane. He was probably affected by drug/alcohol bingeing and the psychological after effects of same like most people would be. I'd encourage readers to watch his internet talk show which aired Saturday March 5th. He is anything but insane/mentally ill. Its entertainment and he definitely "winning" at capitalizing on his eccentricities of thought and his persona, all the way to the bank. His is now a household name and thats the way entertainers like it. The psychiatrist has it right that the more worrisome mindset comes from the media and his employer.
March 6, 2011 11:42 AM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
His is now a household name and thats the way entertainers like it.
...and he got to kill that stupid show before it killed his career.
March 6, 2011 1:07 PM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
Yep, the whole insane out of control hollywood star thing is now the latest attention grabber. Because of Charlie's success, I'll bet you'll see a new run on celebrity/celebrity wannabe's pulling similar craziness attention seeking stuff for their own career advancement. Thing is, only a select few can pull it off in a winning way. Joaquin Phoenix flopped. I laughed hysterically when Spencer Pratt piped up to say he would love to be Charlie's new publicity man, what a circus act that would be!! But I think Spencer is an untalented hanger-on opportunist and I think Charlie is smart enought to know this and likely wouldn't make such a career mistake by allowing an association. I hope Charlie runs with his own show thing, there is so much potential there for some fabulous entertainment if he can get his ducks in a row and keep his material fresh and novel.
March 6, 2011 5:20 PM | Posted by : | Reply
First of all, great to read all this bashing of psychiatry in the comments. Always heartening to read well though-out criticisms of my profession. Based I'm sure on extensive research and experience with people with serious mental illness. However, I do agree that the shrinks (are they all psychiatrists, or the usual collections of attention-whore therapists and psychologists and other mental defectives?) that come up with categorical diagnoses and treatments are complete asshats and should have their licenses revoked for giving the rest of us a bad name. Or worserer name.
Second, why does Charlie Sheen need help? It seems to me that he has figured out what Americans want: we love to watch people self-destruct. It's awesome, we can't get enough of it. I think Charlie is the reincarnation of Ghandi: having led such an exemplary previous life, now he gets to be rich, screw porn stars, take drugs, and generally raise hell, all without any apparent consequences.
Why blame the media when they're just doing what we tell them to do? We all know who Charlie Sheen is, we're all discussing him, and we're all punching up the ratings. All the "serious" news shows run his story at the top of the newscast, he's the essential "get" for interviews, etc. He joins Twitter, and BAM he's got 1M+ followers.
WE are the reason he's where he is. WE are the ones who watch his very mediocre sitcom, WE are the ones who follow his exploits with bated breath, and WE are the ones who insist that the media cover him. Do you really think any news show that didn't cover him, but cover regular news would pull the same ratings? Iran increasing influence throughout the Middle East? BORING! Tax policy causing run-away federal deficits? BORING! Entitlements causing run-away federal deficits? BORING! We want blood, preferably tiger-blood.
Charlie Sheen is the real reality show: needs no script, no writers, no fancy production. Just turn on a camera and we'll make a star out of him. And thing of it is, he's more reality based in his craziness (note, not an official diagnosis)than we are. He knows the more outrageous he is, the more we're drawn to him. He's the real-life Howard Beale who so far hasn't self-destructed. But he will soon, because all of us need to see the blood.
So, I don't agree that this is the media's fault. It's too easy: we don't want to accept our own personal responsibility for what is going on, just like we don't want to accept personal responsibility for much of anything any more: federal deficits, the mortgage crisis, China owning all our debt, illegal immigration, developmentally stunted youth, you name it. It's always someone else's fault: the media, the government, the poor, the rich, the brown, the white, the liberals, the conservatives, Muslims, Jews, Mormons, etc.
We know something's wrong, but we're damn sure WE had nothing to do with it.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.
March 6, 2011 7:55 PM | Posted by : | Reply
To: Darwin's Codpiece;
I personally have enormous respect for the science of psychiatry. I even have respect for psychology and psycho-therapy. I live in Canada, where those three things are kept fairly separate. Psychiatrists, whose services are covered by our single-payer health care system, primarily deal with drug prescriptions and hospitalizations, and, therefore, our GP's will refer a patient to them only if they believe one or both of those treatments are required. Otherwise, we are referred to psychologists and therapists, which are not covered, and we have to pay for them, ourselves (although there are arrangements made for people below the poverty line). For example, a dear friend is BP, and she has a psychiatrist, a therapist and a psychiatric social worker, each of whom play very different roles in her treatment.
I think it would be criminally negligent for any mental health worker to act on a diagnosis gleaned from the media, and I would hope/assume that any mental health professionals working to help Charlie Sheen are doing the standard evaluations and diagnoses before recommending or enacting any kind of treatment.
But, it is sort of fun to read a professional state an opinion (which, as an industry, you seem to be loathe to do), in such a trivial platform as a blog.
I agree with you that those who buy fan magazines and watch E-Talk and TMZ are really the cause of this kind of uproar. I loathe that entire form of media, and am only peripherally aware of the story in question. I'm of the "brat pack" generation, so Charlie Sheen has a certain place in my post-adolescent heart, but I could honestly care less (I'm far more excited that another teenage idol of mine, Colin Firth, just won an Oscar! :).
But, on the whole, I'm far more interested in the situations in Libya and Egypt, the Wisconsin sit in and my own government's decision to re-brand itself "The Harper Government" instead of "The Government of Canada", which just irks me on more levels than I can name.
There is something to be said for taking a break from the horrors in Liberia, the AIDS epidemic in Africa, the increasing spread of child pornography and the countless other atrocities going on around the world all the time, for something utterly trivial. So long as it doesn't become _all_ you pay attention to.
March 6, 2011 10:44 PM | Posted by : | Reply
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March 6, 2011 11:13 PM | Posted by : | Reply
For all his nuttiness---indeed, because of his nuttiness--Charlie would make a great president for these troubling times.
Consider.
1. Honest. "Yeah, I'm drunk. Fuck you."
2. Integrity. "Yeah, I already told you. I'm drunk. Fuck you."
3. Takes no shit. "You wanna fight, munchkin towel head? It's on. That pressure you feel is a platoon of Marines entering your ass."
"Shut up, Putin, you midget fuck."
4. Nonstop energy. "Hey, I'll bomb you 24/7. And that's the PRE party."
5. Unpredictable. "Well, Sheik Drooliman, or whatever your dumbass name is, I may be your friend. Or, in marked contrast, I may nuke your ass. Your best policy is to sit down and shut the fuck up."
6. Sound monetary policy. "Okay, we're out of crack. Let's screw instead."
7. Never-say-die attitude. "All against me? Ha! I'm enough. Grandiose? Gee, no shit. You ARE smart."
Yup, I'd take Charlie over our pencil-necked dithering lying psychobabbling cowards any time.
As they say, A good manic is hard to find.
March 7, 2011 12:43 AM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
What you describe is not possible as mania is pathophysiologically unrelated to general anxiety disorder. Perhaps you mistook sympathetic nervous system overstimulation for mania (which now more clearly manifests as GAD). It is entirely possible to have both mania and GAD. If you have a manic disorder, its likely you still have it, you just aren't manic right now.
March 7, 2011 12:46 AM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
Sheen could never be a scientologist, what a foolish statement. It's clear sheen only believes in himself, and is pretty convinced he is the one true god.
Just because religious psychosis looks like mania doesn't mean the reverse is true - that mania is religious psychosis. Usually mania and religion go together like PB & J since they probably hit up similar brain areas and neurotransmitters... but you don't need religion to be manic its entirely possible to be manic without religious grandiosity.
March 7, 2011 5:23 AM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
"What you describe is not possible as mania is pathophysiologically unrelated to general anxiety disorder. Perhaps you mistook sympathetic nervous system overstimulation for mania (which now more clearly manifests as GAD). It is entirely possible to have both mania and GAD. If you have a manic disorder, its likely you still have it, you just aren't manic right now."
You cling to biology with such certainty while we still diagnose these conditions by slotting people in boxes with limited diagnostic criteria. Pointing to some vague limbic system processes doesn't broaden your understanding it just makes you feel more certain. You can link GAD to sympathetic nervous system if you want, I could link it back to the amygdala and we'd both really be saying "see, see it's that grey mushy thing there, I dunno how but it is. It's not really your thoughts or behaviour or the world, it's that mushy thing and genetics." Descarte tried that trick back in the 1400s and its just as old now. We could go look at symptom checklists too and figure out how the same symptoms could be used to diagnose someone with either disorder. Again that would make us feel excellent, like real scientists, and our patient/client would be sitting there blinking wondering when the hell the consultation stopped beign about them and started being about our mental masturbation contest. Diagnosis of mental illness is all for the clinician.
Meanwhile there's people in front of you with a bunch of complaints, the don't know what they are, but they know how they affect their lives. The only real way to get to grips with a client's problem is to sit down, ask them what's bothering them and try to understand how it affects their lives. Less certainty, but more truth.
March 7, 2011 8:37 AM | Posted by : | Reply
I tend to think that this whole thing is to boost Sheen, not a "real" breakdown. Sure there may be some drug use, but there was an aweful lot of images that a guy might have wanted people to see.
First off, the porn star thing, AKA the Godesses. Why would his agent or lawyer allow him to put that on TV if it would hurt his career? It actually seems to give him some credability as a sex-symbol. Hey look -- I'm so sexy I'm dating a porn star!
Secondly, the kids. While most people would rather die than have their kids taken away, and would most certainly have figured out where they went, look at the way they portrayed him -- family man, playing with the kids, not scaring them, laid-back. Giving the cops car-seats because they didn't have them. Hey look -- I'm a Family Man!
And as far as asking for more money -- I think that's at least partially a sop to the working stiff. He doesn't personally need the money, but it does dovetail nicely with the general state of the economy. People in several states are fighting to keep decent pay, so he went with the meme of "the man doesn't pay me enough" and "sticking it to the man" -- probably something most people in this country would love to be able to do right now.
I expect him to be offered a role sometime soon. Probably playing a working class family man.
March 7, 2011 9:11 AM | Posted, in reply to , by : | Reply
Thanks, Anon.
But I have neither mania nor GAD.
However, I do have a fondness for well-endowed hens.
I would not call it an unnatural fondness.
Is that bad?
March 7, 2011 9:23 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Sheen attempting to manipulate the media (while he's actually being used by the media and others for their purposes) and Sheen having a public breakdown are not mutually exclusive. Watch a couple of minutes of his attempt at a creating a web show and you'll quickly realize he's in way over his (exploding) head - he's busy jumping his own shark not manipulating the media. Sheen misses why "Bi-Winning!" is considered so entertaining for a second - irony is not the strong point of grandiose people.
March 7, 2011 9:40 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Sheen's longtime agent quit, there's no one left who can manage his image or career for him (just people who want to make a quick buck off his breakdown). The irony, of course, is that he's surrounded himself by people who really don't care about him but that he feels he can control or who will suck up to him by affirming his grandiose narrative. The result, a webcast that reveals just how sad (and boring) mental illness and Sheen really are when not just being made fun of as an ironic meme.
Um, Sheen going on about car seats like he's a responsible dad when he's just had his kids removed from his home because of his irresponsible behavior doesn't actually make him look like a good dad - though obviously Sheen would like to pretend it does (both to the world and himself). Guys who threaten to behead their ex-wives generally aren't thinking about their children's best interests.
March 7, 2011 11:46 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Jeez, what do you know about the people around Charlie Sheen? For all any of us know, his agent was the one who kept him in that god-forsaken show and deserved to be axed in the most humiliating way. Chris Rock: "...but I understand!"
March 8, 2011 1:20 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Yeah, obviously Sheen's manager was holding him back from being the master thespian he really is - oh, wait, Sheen really just plays a more palatable version of himself on a total crapfest of a sitcom (you know, minus the death threats that make him seem so less cuddly). Sheen's manager did his job, he got Sheen work he could do and got him hideously overpaid for it. If Sheen really wanted to do something that wasn't crap, he could do what all other actors that want to do something that isn't crap do, they either get good enough at acting that people who do interesting work hire them or they work for less money.
Sheen's even more of a dancing monkey now than he was doing that show, in fact he's only a dancing monkey now (where before he was at least a bad actor in a crappy sitcom).
March 8, 2011 2:36 AM | Posted by : | Reply
And what, praytell, if he doesn't want to act anymore? He was apparently receiving $2-3,000,000 per show. Even in the shadow of QE3 that's real money. Plus, y'know, the inheritance.
But tell us when to take him seriously and when not to, since you have such personal knowledge of the guy. Death threats? Real. Acting? Fake. Is that about right? Please continue.
March 8, 2011 11:18 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Lost in all of the mania about Charlie Sheen's mania is his penchant for hitting and threatening so many women in his life. (Not to mention publicly insulting them.) This is not a recent thing; he's been doing it for years. Charlie Sheen may be ill, but he's also a bad person.
This man is ashamed to say that he was aware of these facts but somehow ignored them until a thoughtful woman pointed it out.
March 9, 2011 4:11 PM | Posted by : | Reply
After the most recent shenanigans I'm inclined to change my vote from "sheen is most likely manic" to "sheen might be faking for attention".
When he popped up on 20/20 he did look like a manic nutter but his latest broadcasts of "sheens korner" look like the work of someone putting on the crazy. He's recycling his old phrases and not making any attempt to appear normal, in fact is augmenting his haggard and disheveled appearance. He is trying to sell himself as a wacko at this point in time.
So maybe he is manic, maybe he isn't, at this point I'm changing my vote to that of sheen being an asshole who is disinhibited because his whole life has been easy. For any normal person sheen's behavior would be attributable to mania, but for sheen this is just normal for him.
If sheen were really manic, he would not ever need to "fake it" and these little broadcasts would be coming much faster than they are. His thoughts would be consistently insane (the first broadcast of "sheens korner " he acted rather normal, people rejected it, so in subsequent ones he upped the crazy).
Sheen has had moments on the radio , internet, where he has behaved normally, I don't think that would be possible for a manic person.
Dr Drew needs to kill himself, this guy is a waste of space who makes his $$$ by ridiculing B-list celebrities on reality shows. Now he's trying to jump on the Sheen bandwagon.
March 9, 2011 8:49 PM | Posted by : | Reply
Keep your eye on Sheen's Korner (ustream) and you will see the unfolding of a brilliant performance and Charlie in his element namely, writing all his own material, directing & playing himself to the max with a fascinating array of add on elements to his character garnered from years of exposure (from birth)to many varied artists, actors, writers, poets, musicians and mentors. There are moments watching Charlie of late that I'd swear for instance that I was watching Dennis Hopper in one his infamous convoluted rants. I'm not for a moment suggesting Charlie is pretending to be someone he isn't or that has multiple personality IMO, he is in fact quite mentally healthy, not a perfect being but anything but insane or high. Its Charlie playing Charlie and letting us all have a peak into his inner world. I for one appreciate the honest entertainment he is providing all of us.
March 9, 2011 9:22 PM | Posted by : | Reply
First of all, I wholeheartedly agree that CBS and Hollywood are being asshats in this situation, but that is the usual m.o. of these types; superficiality is what the entertainment industry specialises in, it seems.
I haven't watched much of the Charlie meltdown, for the same reason that I don't watch much reality tv or Maury Povich; I think that putting human tragedy, injury, or insanity on the screen as entertainment is appalling. It is evocative of the Roman Gladiator pits; we want to witness the destruction of another human being. True, the current way of doing this is less bloody, but it is propelled by the same mob mentality, the same human need for destruction.
That being said, my understanding, when it comes to diagnosing mental illness, is that a person must be off of the substance for a substantial amount of time before it can be known whether the individual has a mental illness or if it is the effects of the drug on the brain. This is particularly true when it comes to crack. Crack is a vile drug, extremely addictive, and messes with the brain in a big way.
Granted, there is a certain amount of the is it the chicken-or-the-egg question here, as to whether Charlie started doing drugs because his brain was messed up and he wished to self-medicate, or whether the drugs messed up his brain.
I did watch a bit of the "Charlie Sheen Show" on Sheen's Korner, I think that it is entirely possible that this is all a brilliantly executed bit of entertainment...and a judgement on those in Hollywood, to boot. If it's not, I hope that he get the help that he needs.
November 19, 2011 1:06 AM | Posted by : | Reply
Looks to me like Charlie got made an offer he couldn't refuse. "Get wasted or you will be." He chose to go after the president with his 'questions, many questions' so now he has two more choices. Go on asking and sleep with the fishes or go insane and sleep with more pornstars. Faced with that which way does a professional actor/playboy go?
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